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by olivier75 » 06/08/17, 11:35

Hello,
I changed the rhythm of the mowing of our orchard, which allowed to harvest it in hay, with a ride-on, the shorter size of the strands does not influence, the wind resistance is identical to the hay, perfect. I was able to find 1 plot and an orchard to complete. To pick up more easily in the bin, I did not dry it, distributed immediately, I did not see a difference with dry hay. The longest is to load and unload the trailer at La Fourche. The energy balance is rather zero see positive, since there are fewer mowing. The lazy balance sheet is less so ...
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by Ahmed » 06/08/17, 11:59

Yes, this hay spread directly in green will behave like normal hay when recharging the mulch layer during the growing season, but since it is poorly lignified grass will be much less suitable as a base layer in late fall, since it will be less durable. However, if regular access to this type of resource exists, and on condition that it is required, nothing prevents replenishment before the end of the first harvest of the season (provided that the nature of the crop allows the operation without it being "acrobatic"!).
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 06/08/17, 16:46

Now it's the orchard that makes the mouth ... : Cheesy:
I’m kidding each other his method.

But tall grass in an orchard is better provided that the orchard is in production ... which may not be the case in your context ....

That said, you have to use it somewhere and make choices ...
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by olivier75 » 06/08/17, 18:34

Ahmed,
I harvested the first half after the hay was done in the corner, and the other part, which had been mowed 1 time, seemed to me equivalent to hay, goes up in seeds. In any case, it is much closer to hay than to mowing. I will tell you. I would make an orchard at the end of August which was mowed once in April, it was in bloom (the grasses) last week.
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I know but it is a "leisure" field. That's also why I'm going to look for my neighbors, they haven't yet understood the usefulness of their herbs ....
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by ChristianC » 07/08/17, 11:45

nico239 wrote:On this point I believe that we are one of the rare ones to do NOTHING.

First of all out of laziness.

But also because (for the moment) we do not see what is the problem with these herbs or wild flowers ...

Is there yes and after?

The generous layer of hay has eradicated 80% and the others coexist with tomatoes, potatoes, zucchini, salads and beans and my faith to date this does not seem to pose the slightest problem ...


I chose to mow half of the weeds (lineages?) And to eradicate the other half.

Didier reported that cabbage stalks left on (or in) his hay had served as a refuge and nest for slugs and it was this observation that was my first idea not to leave the stalks in place.

The second idea is that it would seem difficult to saw furrows through these rods (they will inevitably be askew) whose section exceeds 5 mm - some are around a centimeter, even if these furrows will only be made 'in spring 2018.

I deposited in large piles said weeds in a corner of the plot. To see how the decomposition will take place.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 07/08/17, 22:46

olivier75 wrote:I know but it is a "leisure" field. That's also why I'm going to look for my neighbors, they haven't yet understood the usefulness of their herbs ....
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: Mrgreen: ok of ac
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 07/08/17, 22:49

ChristianC wrote:I chose to mow half of the weeds (lineages?) And to eradicate the other half.

Didier reported that cabbage stalks left on (or in) his hay had served as a refuge and nest for slugs and it was this observation that was my first idea not to leave the stalks in place.

The second idea is that it would seem difficult to saw furrows through these rods (they will inevitably be askew) whose section exceeds 5 mm - some are around a centimeter, even if these furrows will only be made 'in spring 2018.

I deposited in large piles said weeds in a corner of the plot. To see how the decomposition will take place.


For 2018 ???

Ooh, in my opinion, it's no worry

If you put the layer of hay that goes well all winter you will have no worries when making your furrows ...

Aside from putting a bundle of hay, personally, I won't do anything at all .... : Mrgreen:
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