Where do you buy your seeds?

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Re: Where do you buy your seed?




by Thouvenel » 27/02/18, 10:17

Stef72 wrote:on my side I take my seeds from friends, and I complete with germinance because they are my region, so I tell myself that the conditions are closer to my garden that if I ordered them in the south of France for example.

I try to do the maximum with non hybrid seedling because I like to let go to seed and exchange with friends;)



A little like that.

I think you have to know first what you want. Let me explain: if you are afraid of the faculty to germinate, almost all the seed companies are equal. The price changes a lot.
Moreover, it is possible that some groups sell almost the same products under different brands (eg: the Limagrain group owns "Clause" and "Vilmorin").
The seeds sold in the trade are subjected to strict controls which guarantee a good germination ... but the price is felt ... If you do your seeds, you get much more and can allow you some% of seeds which will not germinate, it will be a little more generous on the doses.

Seeds (eg garlic, onions, shallots, potatoes, ...) not from seeds likely to be carriers of viruses. Buying these certified seeds (blue label) is a guarantee that these varieties have been regenerated and are free from these pathologies. To make my seeds, I used, for example, "certified" garlic and shallot seeds.

The cheapest is not the worst and you can also go to low-cost seeds.

If you want to encourage local, organic, it will be more expensive.
It's up to you to place the cursor where you want. But it seems to me that there are no brands "to avoid" a priori.




At me the closest organic seed is biaugerme (47). I try to favor buying at home for orders of several bags (organic, local, but expensive)

Otherwise, the seeds bought piecemeal, those whose weight is important (potato, beans, ...) are at Range V *** (gardening network in the south-west) or elsewhere. For flowers, I can buy at lidl, intermarché, ...
Otherwise, I have a friend who spun me about thirty bags of seeds of various brands that were for the purpose of stock, I have not been choosy. The dates were sometimes exceeded but the germination rate remains satisfactory.
I try to exchange the seeds, it's nice too.

For a growing number of seeds, they are my own seeds, adapted to my terroir. For tomato, Swiss chard, gray shallots, pink garlic Lautrec, I began since 3 years a variety selection by keeping only the seeds of the most beautiful and healthy feet.

My goal is:
- generalize this practice of varietal selection
- stay open on purchases of new varieties (by favoring local organic seeds for ethical reasons)
- to exchange more
- to reproduce as much as possible my own seeds
- try some varietal creations (tomatoes, zucchini, ...) on species where it is not too complex.
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Re: Where do you buy your seed?




by Did67 » 27/02/18, 11:35

Just a note: even the "organic" brands are not all producers (or not for their entire offer); so even bought locally, the seeds can come from the other end of Europe ...

And a second: the virus diseases are particularly marked on potatoes - most of the potatoes that we pass between gardeners are, and sometimes seriously. The sign which allows you to know it: the sheet is "embossed", instead of being quite flat ... It is then necessary to start again from a culture of meristem (this is the place where new cells are formed, at the end of a rod) - this is done in the lab. Any cuttings will be contaminated. Aphids and other biters (sometimes nematodes in the soil) are the main vectors.
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Re: Where do you buy your seed?




by Thouvenel » 27/02/18, 14:56

Did67 wrote:Just a note: even the "organic" brands are not all producers (or not for their entire offer); so even bought locally, the seeds can come from the other end of Europe ...


Yes not all. It is important to specify it. You are right.

I was talking about my case: Biaugerme has a network of farms that provides 100% seeds, these farms are only in Lot-et-Garonne.
Saint Martha does everything on the spot (?) It seems to me ....

I had distinguished local and organic.

Did67 wrote:And a second: the virus diseases are particularly marked on potatoes - most of the potatoes that we pass between gardeners are, and sometimes seriously. The sign which allows you to know it: the sheet is "embossed", instead of being quite flat ... It is then necessary to start again from a culture of meristem (this is the place where new cells are formed, at the end of a rod) - this is done in the lab. Any cuttings will be contaminated. Aphids and other biters (sometimes nematodes in the soil) are the main vectors.


Here, a quick question in passing on this: my garlic kept for the seed sometimes had a small superficial hole on some clods. I eliminated these heads (yum) by keeping to sow only those where the entirety of the caïeux were nickels. I did well ? Risk of transmission? Useless precaution?
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Re: Where do you buy your seed?




by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 28/02/18, 14:00

A bit of everywhere like everyone else.

Ms. it's more in store
Me rather on the net with a weakness for the Good Seed but I'm not frozen
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Re: Where do you buy your seed?




by Did67 » 28/02/18, 14:23

Thouvenel wrote: my garlic kept for the seed sometimes had a small superficial hole on some clods.


???? (I do not know) !
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Re: Where do you buy your seed?




by Christophe » 28/02/18, 15:03

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Re: Where do you buy your seeds?




by PVresistif » 23/09/18, 19:30

I have a small garden and a composter and I buy the seeds from Lidl or other.
Currently I eat some tomatoes (cherry type) that have grown alone in the composter! I have a little trouble understanding, of course when I saw that I watered them well; I also have a squash that has grown alone in the composter that may be mature
Is there a clear explanation, and do you have to buy seeds every year or make them yourself?
I had ordered a book from Eyrolles on the subject of "making your seeds" but it is out of print and not republished, the lobbies must take care of the grain (es) ....!
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Re: Where do you buy your seeds?




by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 24/09/18, 01:34

My faith for the seeds, everyone sees noon at his door.

There are the hardcore of the bio.
There are fans of personal production.
etc

For my part I do not care a bit.
I buy most of the time over the internet and in this case several factors come into play
- the price of course
- shipping charges
- the varieties
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the service

I have always valued the service, the people you deal with.

So when I have the "mother Girerd" (seeds Girerd) on the phone I know that I can arrange with her to group orders (because sometimes I gorre myself and I do it several times) .. In short, I have a human being on the other end of the line and I find that good.

That said I also bought in China to test.

Or at Lidl store because it does not look expensive but to be sure we should WE WE do what I do not do.

On the fair this weekend, there was an organic merchant and everything and everything but the prices were exorbitant.

Mrs. is given seeds by a friend and recover on our own vegetables ...

As you can see it's VERY diverse.

To the feeling, to the belief as Didier would say, I would tend to favor seeds of plants that have germinated well and have developed well in my soil.

However, I do not have enough perspective to say if it's really better or not.

We'll see this in a few years and we'll see if the good plans of yesterday give seeds that always make good plans over the years
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