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Re: New lazy 04 kitchen garden




by Diabolorent » 11/07/18, 16:20

Did67 wrote:Too clear, the pastis. Do not see enough !!!


Next time I would do a tomato or a parrot ... no the parrot on a background of greenery it will not do it in fact! :D
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by to be chafoin » 14/07/18, 00:15

Did67 wrote:When the "root end" comes, it means that the soil begins to deteriorate ...
We can help with a gouge to weed (I also use it to plant plants, instead of the transplant).
Yes I usually do with a gouge with asparagus (it's the same thing, but a little longer and beefier) ​​but it does not seem to me simple to cross the hay, especially as the earth below is not really loose (without being completely dry either). I'm going to retry to see, the main concern remaining potentilla ... which invades some places a bit like Diabolorent, so that it discourages me to weed. Maybe when I find a little more time and if it's cooler!

It's true that we got used to instantaneity and nature's temporality is so far removed from us now ... it's a bit as if we were on one planet, and nature on another! I find it hard to see how we could now "reverse" ...
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by phil53 » 14/07/18, 08:56

Regarding the bindweed, I'm doing a test on a part where there were p t well invaded.
I scratched and put aside the remaining hay layer. I raked the earth about 5cm about leaving the bindweed roots, then I tore out each one of them trying to get as much as possible.
Then I covered my pile of hay in reserve, not packed. This is about 1m high on 2m squared. I will leave it in place until late August, normally the bindweed will hardly have time to find the exit and at that moment I would start again.
I hope this should calm him down for next year.
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by Moindreffor » 14/07/18, 09:32

phil53 wrote:Regarding the bindweed, I'm doing a test on a part where there were p t well invaded.
I scratched and put aside the remaining hay layer. I raked the earth about 5cm about leaving the bindweed roots, then I tore out each one of them trying to get as much as possible.
Then I covered my pile of hay in reserve, not packed. This is about 1m high on 2m squared. I will leave it in place until late August, normally the bindweed will hardly have time to find the exit and at that moment I would start again.
I hope this should calm him down for next year.

I think you have a part of the solution, we do not insist enough on the thickness of the hay layer, a very thick layer will already allow to exhaust a bit of bindweed that will have to cross, then when he goes out, you have to settle his account as soon as possible, do not wait for him to redo his reserves, so by putting such a thickness you leave yourself a certain margin, to wait for cooler days, good idea
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Re: New lazy 04 kitchen garden




by Did67 » 14/07/18, 09:41

Have you noticed that in the "aggradated" soil, when pulling, an underground part of rhizome comes often (increasing the "damage" done to bindweed and therefore the quantity of reserve to be mobilized to rebuild this segment)?
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by phil53 » 14/07/18, 15:51

Concerning the agradation, I am rather disappointed, it will not stop. I have sandy soil with shallow clay. There are no or few worms.
It seems to me that it has the same consistency as when I started. On the side where I spread a pile of old brambles and various plant debris that was on site is significantly more flexible. I have incorporated a lot of lignite.
Cucurbitaceae are huge in terms of foliage but not spectacularly more productive.
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Re: New lazy 04 kitchen garden




by Did67 » 14/07/18, 18:05

phil53 wrote: On the side where I spread a pile of old brambles and various plant debris that was on site is significantly more flexible. I have incorporated a lot of lignite.
Cucurbitaceae are huge in terms of foliage but not spectacularly more productive.


So indeed, your soil has big needs!

The brambles and plant debris that I suppose fibrous led to a formation of humic substances (from theINE, a staple of wood) that seems to be bearing fruit.

So continue in this direction, by "forcing" the fiber doses.

You may suddenly have a "depressive effect", which could explain the poor performance. To correct with rich substances such as clippings, bunches of nettles, ...
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Re: New lazy 04 kitchen garden




by to be chafoin » 14/07/18, 18:53

How do we find an aggraded soil?
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Re: New lazy 04 kitchen garden




by Did67 » 14/07/18, 19:12

I think it is better to talk about the process of aggregation - a soil is always more or less "aggradated", that is, when it is slightly damp, it is crumbly, made up of small "lumps" ( called soil aggregates).

But the "texture" (composition of clays, silts, sands) will strongly influence the result. A very clayey soil will remain "loamy" when it is wet and will become hard when it dries (clay bricks are made). A very sandy soil will remain "too" friable, particulate, even if little by little the humic substances stick them a little ...

The process of aggradtion can not work miracles: it can correct major defects; that's all !

I am lucky to have a balanced soil and I “advertised” the aggregation process by showing my “couscous”. It was to mark the spirits: yes, without tillage, the soil structure improves ... As much or more than if it is worked (even if occasionally, a "worked" soil can be softer, better structured , after passing a tiller: it never lasts!).
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Re: New lazy 04 kitchen garden




by Diabolorent » 30/07/18, 09:01

News from the front.

To start my first harvest of zucchini:

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Then the tomatoes that start to blush:

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We tasted a salad also this WE ... fooormidaaable !!! Surprised at how, even for a simple salad, the taste can change when it's 100% bio : Shock:

Here, for the rest, the round tomatoes are in bloom but still no fruit on the horizon, 2 peppers row but I do not despair to harvest in late summer : Mrgreen:

Oh yes ! I almost forgot to introduce you to my lazy kitchen garden ... he puts all his energy into understanding the lazy system : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

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