Manufacturing a cane planting for practitioners phénoculteurs?

[Ahmed]

Izentrop, you write:

a pedal and a free hand like here

On this video, the rod has two attachment points for two handles, but one is occupied by a rod ... That's what I said in the previous message: if the users had taken the trouble to weld a binding for this rod, they would still have two handles, useful in more compact soils than in the example in question.

[Did67]

Nothing prohibits anyone andouille to learn and add an arrow to his bow (sic)!

You mean that an andouille can turn?

[Ahmed]

Yes, it is well known! There is even a controlled appellation, if it is!
At the same time, an andouille which turns is no longer an andouille ...

[Ahmed]

As I have (roughly) the corresponding elements and a model, I will start by reproducing the planting spout. The first part is simple to carry out: the 60 mm tube (internal diameter) is traced with felt (this does not require too great precision), then sectioned at an angle with the angle grinder fitted with a thin disc * to cut into 125 mm in diameter (deburr the edges of the cut before injuring yourself with the morfil). We necessarily get two identical pieces ...
Then, cut on each side of the top of the part, to create a larger opening, then adjust the internal diameter on the round bighorn of the anvil: given the thickness, it is necessary to insist a little, but it will (hold the piece with a vise grip or at least a thick glove) ...

Next comes the rectangular roughing of the cutout of the movable part of the spout, which will be taken from a supermarket display square (suddenly, I also made two ); small forming test: the top is rounded, to end up practically flat at the bottom ... But, given the thickness, the operation promises to be difficult and I think that hot forming will be essential. I will therefore first make the blanks of other shaped pieces to make a "batch" when the forge at Charcoal will be on ... It would also be possible to use other heating means, depending on the tools available.

Tomorrow (?), Corresponding photos to better visualize all of this ...

* Thin discs 1 mm thick are formidable in efficiency, but can also inflict serious injuries: both hands must therefore remain permanently on the machine and the workpiece must be held securely on an adequate support; protective glasses and hearing protection system extra ... Also pay attention to anything that is potentially flammable ** (rags, paper, solvent, fuel ...).
** It is not a luxury to have a fire extinguisher on hand (for me, a 10 kg CO2).

Note: if I insist on security measures, this is not a personal obsession, but simple lucidity (not to mention experience ) and because some occasional handymen who would be tempted to imitate me, must be warned that this activity is potentially very dangerous as soon as it is improvised.

[izentrop]

Also pay attention to anything that is potentially flammable ** (rags, paper, solvent, fuel ...).

... Clothes included.
You're right, you can never be too careful, there is projection of molten metal.
My retired stepfather and yet a former craftsman has a shirt that caught fire, causing a third degree burn. The wound took several months to close.

[Did67]

Also pay attention to anything that is potentially flammable ** (rags, paper, solvent, fuel ...).

I confirm and confess something like this: open garage, I hadn't paid attention to a jar of white spirit in which my wife had just rinsed a brush when I decided to cut a tube with a grinder about two meters away. of the ! Just enough time to hear a "woufffff", and the pot was on fire!

[Ahmed]

Yes, Izentrop, you do well to add clothes: never synthetic fabrics, because in case of inflammation the material sticks to the skin, napalm way!
Pay particular attention to the projection area when grinding: if it is directed long enough (not that much, in fact!) At the same point, localized heating occurs which quickly leads to inflammation. Cotton clothes are essential and a leather apron for the hottest operations!
During welding, it often happens that small balls of molten metal (those which are at the origin of gratons) cross the socks and come to cool on the foot : foresee this case; for my part, I wear welder gaiters, which is the best solution.

Did, an open fire is less dangerous than a smoldering fire in old rags, because we are present in the first case, while in the second, it can start when there is no one left. Although without consequences, it has already happened to me to return to the workshop and find it all smoky; I had not paid attention to the beginning of combustion, because there is always a little smoke when you weld (especially with the cellulosic electrode).

[Did67]

Did, an open fire is less dangerous than a smoldering fire in old rags, because we are present in the first case, while in the second, it can start when there is no one left. Although without consequences, it has already happened to me to return to the workshop and find it all smoky; I had not paid attention to the beginning of combustion, because there is always a little smoke when you weld (especially with the cellulosic electrode).

Yes, absolutely: an open container does not explode (for this reason, an anaerobic digestion station cannot explode; if it catches fire, it makes a large "wooffff" upwards and that's it). It was a tin can ...

In this case, being a background of White Spirit, it fizzled [I use this generally distorted expression properly: fizzling = burning very quickly].

The risk would have been that nearby, flammable materials catch fire ...

I confirm that the projection of sparks quickly "burned" a tissue, because this stupidity, I did it too! I even attacked the varnished beech treads of a wooden staircase, cutting out threaded rods that held the staircase - focused on my rods, and effectively wearing goggles that protected my eyes, but reduced my field of vision. ...

[Ahmed]

The promised photo:

In the foreground, the end of the tube in which I cut the two pieces which are on the triply plate: they have been re-cut to open more widely and subsequently receive the movable part of the spout which are here the rectangular elements to the background; the one held by the vise grip is marked to define its final shape ...

Work in progress ...

[olivier75]

Hello,
I am encrusted on the subject.
I also had some reflections on the cane to plant.

I use plastic cups for forest plants from Barthelemy plastic, (I can't put the links), there are grooves which guide the roots towards a single hole, they open in 2, are gathers by 20 in a pot and a lid made mini greenhouse. A little expensive but the top of what I saw. I took it for a few tens of years. They age quite well, I have had them for 5 years. By 20 (actually 5x4) it allows to separate the varieties rather easily.

For the rod I would rather go for a system without handle with a square that opens it by touching the ground, only one movable side, once opened I think that there is not too much pressure or that it is compensated by the one on the sides and the earth inside, and that the plant remains on the ground, otherwise a click that we just have to release, with a handle on a cable. A counterweight to keep the jaw open.

For Ahmed, I will make the same cut as you are jaw on the tube and simply an ovoid plate in jaw, the asymmetry should not have consequences.

It would be good if it worked with the bulbs, it seems to me that the planters do not always place them upright and that they still grow.

For peas and beans, the same principle with a return that rotates a distributor disc a notch each time?

For the smallest seeds, a cutting and a positioning by a follower seeder?
But in 20 cm? With a small gap to bring in a little light?

To resume Didier on the professionalization of phenoculture, market gardening also exists on surfaces around the hectare, and if a hundred boots can seem a lot, it is only 3000 euros if purchased, in exchange for a lot less salary . And can concern only a more or less large part of cultures. I can't see a market gardener suddenly switching to phenoculture ....
However, adapted equipment is needed in the same way as cover crops in field crops.
In short, it's a bit the same subject as the furrow.
I also think that the andouille sausages are not all on the same point, it is easier to exchange beautiful vegetables for some solders, than to try to learn a piece of Metier, unless you are really interested in it.

Olivier.