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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique




by Julienmos » 08/07/17, 12:39

the thickness of hay matters a lot too, I think ...
I noticed: where the soil remained the wettest, it was in the places where the layer was the most consistent.
Next year, I will make sure there are enough everywhere! it is obviously easier when you unroll hay from a roller (which was not my case last winter, hence the irregularity of the thicknesses, insufficient in some places).
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by Did67 » 08/07/17, 14:32

Julienmos wrote:the thickness of hay matters a lot too, I think ...
I noticed: where the soil remained the wettest, it was in the places where the layer was the most consistent.
Next year, I will make sure there are enough everywhere! it is obviously easier when you unroll hay from a roller (which was not my case last winter, hence the irregularity of the thicknesses, insufficient in some places).


Ah yes: there must be dry hay on top, while below, in contact with the ground, wetter hay breaks down ...
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by phil53 » 08/07/17, 21:16

Very interesting explanations which comfort me in the idea that I have to put as much crushed wood as possible. I do not know the mechanism but I noticed that on my land where the wood is present with at least 15 cm thick, there is moisture. Where there is only thick hay, it is completely dry.
The soil, whether under hay or crushed wood, has not been structured, it is the same consistency as at the beginning. There is practically no worm.
I did not succeed in any semi of small seeds. We'll see next year.
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by Did67 » 08/07/17, 22:33

phil53 wrote:
I do not know the mechanism but I noticed that on my land where the wood is present with at least 15 cm thick, there is moisture.



Probably linked to fungi, remarkable extractors, remarkable water "retainers" ...

Think of lichens (symbiosis between an alga - photosynthesis - and a fungus - extractor / retentor): this association colonizes concrete, rocks, bark ...
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by phil53 » 12/07/17, 15:53

This morning harvest shallots and onions. Shallots are shabby but onions are worse.
Next year, I will put them on the ground then I will cover with hay. I have the impression that stung through, I was going too deep.
I planted celery, a little salad.
And try the carrot semi again, I take advantage of it, the soil is moist, maybe the right one?
By tearing the bindweed, I had the good surprise to extract a piece of 50cm. By cons many others in fact form a sort of collar when I tear it through the hay. Suddenly it goes back very quickly.
At my place too, the heavy rains in some places did not cross the hay, or almost not.
The zucchini and other cucurbits are superb, I can clearly see the difference with my neighbors who hardly cover their land.
I'm overproducing, I'm already giving
The beans are growing and enjoying the heavy rains we have had.
The tomatoes also but they are very green for now.
Who is a phenocultor and has problems with the leek fly?
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by phil53 » 12/07/17, 16:20

Since we're all going to have too much zucchini when it starts:
For those interested, making zucchini chips is simple, original and very good.
Cut the zucchini into thin strips (with a vegetable peeler) place them on a light, very light bed of oil. Put them on top and add a little oil.
Sprinkle with spices. cook slowly at low temperature to dry. (about 50mn)
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by sicetaitsimple » 12/07/17, 22:12

phil53 wrote:Who is a phenocultor and has problems with the leek fly?


No bad experience for the moment, and not wishing to have one because obviously (from my readings) it's a hell of a bitch!

I transplanted about 150 leek plants last WE, I hope to be able to make the same return in a few months!
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by perseus » 12/07/17, 22:37

Hello,

For the moment RAS on the Leek fly, but I will keep my eyes open.
On the other hand, a lot of flea beetles in cabbage. Younger plants have more holes than leaves :)
The very first tomatoes are ripe (I have no greenhouse).
Ugly onion and garlic or even ridiculous. The Cucurbits are great.
The carrots are generally well advanced, I have a test of sowing in bucket in progress.

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by Did67 » 13/07/17, 12:34

Me neither on the leek fly ...

Also a lot of thrips or flea beetles finally "holes" in the crucifers (turnips!).

First stomata ... 3 or 4 feet in the greenhouse and 2 or 3 in the tunnel in the advanced orange phase ...

Still struggling with my second carrot sowing !!!

On the other hand, my second sowings of various "salads", despite the drought, are coming out well now, thanks to the few small rains (several times something like 3 mm)!
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by phil53 » 16/07/17, 08:40

This week, I can testify at least for the cucurbits that the hay gives results superior to the traditional method.
Compared to my neighbors who water them yet, the zucchini plants are more than double in size, they measure more than 1m and full of wheaten fruit. Last year I had painfully obtained 2 small pumpkins, this year, I will be able to distribute them.
As for the yellow beans, they are also in great shape, I have to defend them against the pumpkins which are finally too close.
On the tomato side, the sown one catches up with those bought, some start to change color. I should have left only a bit because in the end they are too close to each other and it's the jungle. No signs of illness yet.
The eggplant foot bought forms very small fruits, I hope that the next ones will be normal. The bell pepper also bought is in bloom.
It's better than last year, they had finally punctured without fruiting.
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