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Re: Lazy Gardener in Loire Atlantique




by phil53 » 18/05/18, 23:52

Today I have crushed about 20 Colorado potato beetles and eggs. They are mainly on the p of t from plants recovered in my neighbor's composter. Are they weaker?
In any case, I harvested, like an organic farmer, about 1 kg of fresh t
I sprayed urine on the bean aphids, the idea is that the smell disturbs the ants. In the short term it works, I would tell you if it is effective. If a member wanted to try it at home, it would be good to compare.
3rd year of cultivation with hay and bindweed has never been so beautiful despite the hunting I do. Very large and very thick leaves.
The slugs seem less virulent, do I have little soldiers watching? I don't see any, but that doesn't prove anything.
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by phil53 » 08/06/18, 23:08

Always Colorado potato beetles, I crush each of my weekly visits. I also harvest p of t without damaging the foot. I also harvested red onion beans and garlic.
On the beans there are always aphids, the smell of urine does not bother the ants. There are a few ladybugs but I haven't seen any larvae.
I saw a rat come to recover a p of t without being disturbed by my presence. I hope they will not be too greedy.
The squash begins to start within 15 days the harvest will begin I believe.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/06/18, 23:52

phil53 wrote:Always Colorado potato beetles, I crush each of my weekly visits. I also harvest p of t without damaging the foot. I also harvested red onion beans and garlic.
On the beans there are always aphids, the smell of urine does not bother the ants. There are a few ladybugs but I haven't seen any larvae.
I saw a rat come to recover a p of t without being disturbed by my presence. I hope they will not be too greedy.
The squash begins to start within 15 days the harvest will begin I believe.


Luckily no Colorado potato beetles yet.

phil53 wrote:On the beans there are always aphids, the smell of urine does not bother the ants.


What do you mean???

phil53 wrote:I saw a rat come to recover a p of t without being disturbed by my presence.


I do not know if I will find the pieces, (if there are any left) but I had a corpse in the garden of a beautiful beast ... long live the cats : Mrgreen:
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by phil53 » 09/06/18, 07:12

According to the reasoning that the ants follow their tracks with the odor, to disturb them, I sprayed urine L left in the sun in a can.
A priori this does not bother them.
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by Did67 » 09/06/18, 08:44

phil53 wrote:
3rd year of cultivation with hay and bindweed has never been so beautiful despite the hunting I do.



There are two species of bindweed, the smaller one, the "field bindweed" (Convolvulus arvense from its Latin name). It is, according to the "flora" (identification books) 20 to 80 cm. Especially in the fields and meadows.

The other much stronger, the "hedge bindweed" (Calystegia sepium or Convolvulus sepiuem) is mainly found along hedges, banks, fences or brush. It is, depending on the flora, 1 to 3 m! It can have rhizomes, more than 50 cm deep, the size of asparagus !!!

Maybe you have this second?
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 09/06/18, 15:39

phil53 wrote:According to the reasoning that the ants follow their tracks with the odor, to disturb them, I sprayed urine L left in the sun in a can.
A priori this does not bother them.


Try to do a test to make friends with the ants.

We also have lots of aphids on the beans ... except we also have lots of ants that take care of them.

And in the end the beans are doing perfectly well.

A bit like roses, aphids and ladybugs.

It looks like the title of a fable by La Fontaine Image
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by guibnd » 09/06/18, 19:13

Did67 wrote:
phil53 wrote:
3rd year of cultivation with hay and bindweed has never been so beautiful despite the hunting I do.



There are two species of bindweed, the smaller one, the "field bindweed" (Convolvulus arvense from its Latin name). It is, according to the "flora" (identification books) 20 to 80 cm. Especially in the fields and meadows.

The other much stronger, the "hedge bindweed" (Calystegia sepium or Convolvulus sepiuem) is mainly found along hedges, banks, fences or brush. It is, depending on the flora, 1 to 3 m! It can have rhizomes, more than 50 cm deep, the size of asparagus !!!

Maybe you have this second?

I'm spoiled, I have both : roll:
I used to spray them with glyphosate : Oops: they loved it!
now I do with it, I shoot them on the mouth ... as soon as I see a piece of it coming out of the hay : Evil:
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Twandering with clayey and fertile wheat, full of water in winter, cold in spring, crushed and cracked in summer,
but that was before the Didite ...
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by Did67 » 09/06/18, 21:02

Guibnd wrote:I used to spray them with glyphosate : Oops: they loved it!


What do you mean ! Glyphosate would be useless ??? It would not be effective ??? Oooooooooooh, I'm disappointed.

You are going to pay yourself a lawsuit by Monsanto who managed to convince many gardeners that a little "drop" of glyphosate, and the problem was solved !!!

[NB: they did better as a sleight of hand; the packaging of the new Roundup looks like two drops of water to the old one, the glyphosate formula. But he is based on acetic acid. In other words, vinegar-based !!!!

https://www.solutions-jardin.fr/produit ... tkQAvD_BwE

€ 34,40 for 3 l, the 60 g / l solution of acetic acid [note, vinegar is a solution of acetic acid; this is 12%

https://www.greenweez.com/ecodoo-vinaig ... #ectrans=1

For those who are not good at conversion and units:

- 1 l of vinegar with 12% acetic acid contains 120 g of acetic acid per liter
- you add 1 l of water, that makes two l of mixture with 120 g of actique always
- you therefore have two l of mixture at 60 g / l, the equivalent of the new Roundup
- all for 1,60 € !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So € 2,40 for 3 liters .... Compare with € 34,40 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

NB: It is not forbidden to cloud clients; you have to sell what it says on the label; it's the case; prices are free - so they can be crazy; it's the case !

Glyphosate fans will get fucked deep without glyphosate.
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by guibnd » 09/06/18, 21:39

so the new roundup is only dangerous for the purse of the gullible consumer who does not know what acetic acid is, it's swollen! : Shock:
too bad for those who still buy roundup and who do not read econology : Wink:

if not, it was glyphosate 360g / l that I put on my bindweed, I still have the package that I have not finished since it did not kill the bindweed and it is only this plant that bored, the others (thistle, nettle, quackgrass, plantain, buttercup ...) we come to grips with it.
to avoid spunk everywhere, I had diluted and made a test with a brush directly on the leaves of bindweeds, easy on the bindweed of hedges which has leaves larger than the bindweeds
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but that was before the Didite ...
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by to be chafoin » 10/06/18, 01:18

nico239 wrote:
phil53 wrote:According to the reasoning that the ants follow their tracks with the odor, to disturb them, I sprayed urine L left in the sun in a can.
A priori this does not bother them.
Try to do a test to make friends with the ants. We also have lots of aphids on the beans ... except we also have lots of ants that take care of them. And in the end the beans are doing perfectly well.
Aphids, ants "take care of them" as you say: they "cocoon" them to recover their honeydew! : Mrgreen: So I think Phil53 is right to want to divert them from his beans ...
To avoid aphid infestations, if possible, you can sow your beans at the right time in the fall. They are not afraid (not too much) of frost (at worst protect them in a tunnel). By resuming in early spring, aphids that need heat do not have time to settle, at least not to the point of harming the crops. I have been doing this for 3, 4 years and this year I almost did not need to head (another means of struggle), I left the little aphids on my beans to make the joy of ladybugs. So you just have to find the ideal sowing period (for my part mid October).
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