The interest of soil non-work confirmed by studies!

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by Christophe » 16/10/16, 12:21

izentrop wrote:to see that any substance is characterized among other things by its LD50.


So what? This does not in any way remove the fact that LD50 does NOT characterize the carcinogenic power (for humans) of substances ...

LD50 characterizes a short-term lethal chemical poisoning ... and on rats or other guinea pigs ... can be a bit more resistant than humans on certain substances ...

izentrop wrote:I want you to remove this word "manipulation" which does not correspond to me.
It doesn't bother me that Obamot says it over and over, because it is not credible to me.


Well, if this characteristic is repeated to you constantly, you should start asking yourself questions, right?
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by Remundo » 16/10/16, 12:51

I found a video from 2015 of a nice operator trying to "empower himself"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOM6wS580iI
What is interesting in his testimony is thathe has no ideological bias. He tries things like semi-direct, but he explains from time to time to use industrial solutions (chemistry, tractor, plowing) if it gets stuck.

My faith is a farmer in the noble sense: pragmatic and open / curious.

Another relevant aspect is that it is also investing in energy production, with a biogas station, providing 54 kW of electricity and a lot of "natural" fertilizer to replenish the soil.
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by Ahmed » 16/10/16, 21:07

Izentrop, you write:
Ahmed wrote:
conventional farming methods have destroyed their predators *

You point to the scapegoat, it means forgetting other equally important causes

It is by no means a scapegoat! Far from me the idea of ​​zero-gravity agriculture! It cannot be separated from the general evolution of society which aims to maximize the production of abstract value to the detriment of the conditions necessary for life on earth; in doing so, agriculture has largely contributed to the degradation of its own environment, without this implicating the "farmers", so aptly named (and who succeeded the peasants), since, like all others, they are only agents of a system which completely transcend them.
It seemed obvious to me, but since it does not appear so clearly, I take advantage of your remark to repeat it: it is educational! : Wink:
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by dede2002 » 18/10/16, 17:28

Obamot wrote:Always interesting to know what he said to himself at a certain time ... but we agree that it can only be limited to the knowledge of the time and which has improved enormously since ... This book being before the discovery of DNA, for example, we can't get much out of it nowadays ... Endocrine disruptors weren't known either ... And your right page stops at " As for mammals "and the text stops before even having the info : Mrgreen: it's sold, they could still finish writing this book, the author must have been a Corsican, or a Bernese who signed the proof after the press release ^^


No Swiss is me, I'm not Swiss German but badly Swiss :P

So I did not scan the next page, which estimates the lethal dose of DDT for mammals at 5 kg / ha.

The author is very French, I wouldn't know it if I hadn't found this book by sorting out old books, I had to read it with a knife, which moved me and saddened me by thinking that nobody hadn't read it before me for 64 years, at least this copy.

This gentleman must have turned around in his grave in 2006, when the WHO officially (re) authorized the use of DDT!
Emblematic DDT, because it was the first to have been banned, at least on the façade.
Already in the 90s, I saw it used several times (in Africa), against malaria and also against fleas and bedbugs in houses.
On the other hand, I do not think that Americans powder their hair, there are probably many other more expensive products ...

Below, a tribute to Roger Heim.

http://liberterre.fr/gaiagnostic/hommage-heim.html
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by Obamot » 18/10/16, 17:44

A great man who certainly knew the difference between "putrefaction"VS"fermentation"... We understand better why he wrote that about DDT ... His studies on soils are edifying ...!

Finally, the root of the problem has not changed, DDT will have been replaced by other crap and the cash drawer of large chemicals is still full ... But as the fragile balance hangs by a thread, the exhaustion of the grounds doing its work, it is still to fear famines and other riots of the hunger (always in prospect of the marketing campaigns "of hope" of the majors of chemistry, which do not fulfill their promises ... for they "let nature take its course" does not bring a nail!
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