GMO on Arte: the world according to Monsanto

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by Targol » 12/03/08, 13:44

loop wrote:This is the Omar Raddad affair

I wonder how the investigators could believe for one instant that the victim had himself entered the name of his murderer when he was seriously injured
To write "thing to kill me" is to consider that we are already dead and moreover it is contrary to our survival instinct which would push us rather to seek help rather than to use its last strength to register a real sentence on a wall 1 m from the ground!

What do you think ?

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That, as you said, it's completely HS : Mrgreen: .
If you want to discuss it (although it has little to do with econology), create another topic in the appropriate section.

Otherwise, a little anecdote about phytosanitary products.
Stepmother had a farmer neighbor. One day, at the end of the visit to her home, he takes leave saying to her:
- I have to go, I have treatments to pass on my fields.

Curious, she asked him, what products it was. His answer made us fall on the c * l:
- I have no idea, it is the cooperative which sells me the seeds and buys me the harvest which provides me with the calendar and the products for the treatments.

The guy passed (without any special precautions or protection of any kind whatsoever) products of which he knew nothing about his crops : Shock: .

He died of generalized cancer last month in his sixties.
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by the middle » 12/03/08, 16:04

Until the age of 35, I never took antibiotics when I had the flu, at 35, I discovered that I was eating lots of antibiotics, through the chickens, the meat. .. :?
Then I made a vegetable garden on a completely abandoned ground for 10 years that I previously treated with .....
I'm going to cry ... luckily I smoke marlboros, I know where my premature death will come from : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
What is the next surprise? : Cheesy:
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by bham » 12/03/08, 16:54

lejustemilieu wrote:... Then I made a vegetable garden on a completely abandoned land for 10 years that I previously treated with .....
I'm going to cry ... luckily I smoke marlboros, I know where my premature death will come from : Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
What is the next surprise? : Cheesy:

Well, yes, I too have already treated .... and since I found it expensive, I came to buy a weedkiller with the same active ingredient, glyphosate, but without a brand, so bcq is cheaper but probably the same risk of pollution. For qqs years, I stopped this bullshit.
You should explain to people that while buying a weedkiller, they don't buy Round Up, to boycott.

As for the next surprise, fear not, we will surely have many more. : Evil:
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by Targol » 12/03/08, 17:03

bham wrote:As for the next surprise, fear not, we will surely have many more. : Evil:


Surprise, yes if we only have the traditional media as the source of information.

If you scratch a little and look a little further than the tip of your nose, the information is there: doubts, questioning, counter-expertise are, since the advent of the net, widely available for who wants to take the trouble to search (this is the guiding principle of this report).

In short, continue to surf (on econology, for example 8) ) and you will not be "surprised".

Besides, I take this opportunity to thank Christophe for his site: before discovering it, I ended up getting the information from more traditional media (alternative newspapers) but I didn't have as many and a few months after their premiere "diffusion". This site is really a gold mine for who does not want to have "surprises". : Idea:
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by bham » 13/03/08, 06:41

As a reminder :
Really false advertisement for the falsely biodegradable "Round up"
[May 14, 2007] Prosecuted for misleading advertising after presenting the "Round Up" as a biodegradable product, company directors Scott France SAS and Monsanto were sentenced by the Criminal Court of Lyon to pay each € 15 fine, with the publication of an extract from the judgment in the newspapers "Le Monde" and "Maison et Jardin".

They have been declared "guilty of the offense of misleading advertising or of a nature to mislead, for having, during 2000, broadcast advertising messages concerning herbicide products for amateur gardens sold under the brands Roundup 3 Plus, Roundup GT, Roundup alleys and terraces, Roundup Ultra and Roundup Alphée and containing claims and indications likely to mislead their substantial qualities, with regard to the alleged extent of the biodegradable nature of their active substance called glyphosate ".

The court considered the CLCV's request, a civil party in this procedure initiated in 2000, "admissible and well-founded" and "that the defendants should be declared responsible for the damage suffered by this association". He awarded him € 3 in damages and € 000 in procedural costs. The decision is under appeal.

We had also brought a civil action in September 2005, at the Tribunal de Grande Instance de Nanterre, which is investigating a similar complaint, in misleading advertising relating to the allegations of the advertisements and the mentions of the packaging of the "Round Up".

source: http://www.clcv.org/index.php?v=detail&a=action&id=148
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by jean63 » 13/03/08, 12:29

Unbelievable !! they were convicted ... and only in France for false advertising in 2007, when they have been selling their poison for 30 years.

If I find my old bottle of Roundup, I look at the date and what is written (biodegradable) ... at the time it was believed, but there is a long time that I use organic insecticides ... or nothing .

Last year I had great cherries without aphids and yet no treatment. The solution for aphids is to put glue around the trunk or the ladybugs that eat them, but there it is harder to find in large quantities !!

For weeds, they must be left or destroyed with a squeegee, by hand (the soil is low) or with a flame.

When you walk past the insecticide / fungicide shelves, it's scary to think of all those "organic" gardeners who use them.
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by Christophe » 13/03/08, 12:52

Pff zavé nothing understood :D

It is biodegradable the roundup !! It "biodegrades" everything that touches him !! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by bham » 13/03/08, 14:45

jean63 wrote: Unbelievable !! they were only convicted ... and in France for false advertising in 2007, when they have been selling their poison for 30 years.

It seems to me that I heard from the journalist / author that Monsanto had been condemned in the US 10 years ago for false advertising.


jean63 wrote:When you walk past the insecticide / fungicide shelves, it's scary to think of all those "organic" gardeners who use them.

Chris, you don't want to sell skull stickers or the like, we could have fun putting them on all Monsanto products in the stores. There are some who deflate the tires of 4x4s, why not carry out a counter lobbying operation?
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by jean63 » 14/03/08, 20:17

The CNRS researcher who came to testify on ARTE is in big trouble:

http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/econ ... 986.FR.php

we can sign a petition to support him here =>

http://sciencescitoyennes.org/spip.php?rubrique117
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by Christophe » 14/03/08, 20:30

bham wrote:Chris, you don't want to sell skull stickers or the like, we could have fun putting them on all Monsanto products in the stores. There are some who deflate the tires of 4x4s, why not carry out a counter lobbying operation?


It kicks me! It could even be given as a gift with certain orders ... because selling a sticker is average (except for an association or something like that) ...

Now we should think about the design, moreover if we do a series it will not be ONLY on GMOs since GMOs, you know, are not the "priority" of the site ...
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