Vegetable garden of the (super) lazy in the 04 (800m)

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Mrs. cut the leek heads ... to recover the seeds.

As this is the first time, is that how to do it?

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for me it's a little too early, but I've never done it either, I would have done otherwise, I put a gauze around the head and I waited until it dries a little
now you only have to wait until it dries, you keep us informed

Ok let's wait

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

When we are truffles we are truffles

In our memory we have neither planted nor sown that which is quite present in the greenhouse.

Is it salad?
Beets? a priori nothing below
Weeds

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it actually looks like beet leaves like you can find in some "salads", so maybe a species that doesn't form big roots, but grown for its leaves, I say it like that, that's what what that makes me think, i don't even know if this kind of plant exists

I too would have said beetroot but Ms. tells me not to have sown any of the corners where it grows ...

Reason why I thought of the pif a variety of salad.

But I did not have time to really deepen

[Moindreffor]

When we are truffles we are truffles

In our memory we have neither planted nor sown that which is quite present in the greenhouse.

Is it salad?
Beets? a priori nothing below
Weeds

ADR_4887.jpg

it actually looks like beet leaves like you can find in some "salads", so maybe a species that doesn't form big roots, but grown for its leaves, I say it like that, that's what what that makes me think, i don't even know if this kind of plant exists

I too would have said beetroot but Ms. tells me not to have sown any of the corners where it grows ...

Reason why I thought of the pif a variety of salad.

But I did not have time to really deepen

I have poppies in the lawn and yet I have never sown, I have 2 feet of gherkin, melon or cucumber that have risen in a pot where I transplanted surfinia, plus the memory if it is garden soil, the soil of trade so we grow on the table of the garden, we will see, we find it fun so where the seeds come from is sometimes the great mystery

[Did67]

We can recover, via commercial "potting soil", a lot of seeds, some of which are viable. I thus "picked up", despite myself, crabgrass (a beautiful filth - one of the rare weeds that I "hunt" because it is so invasive even in phenoculture) in a bag of potting soil. All the buckets made from this bag contained it. And they even appeared after planting, when I had "cleaned" the cups.

And yet, a priori, on the platforms they "control" the temperatures, mix mechanically ...

On personal "composts", these are often the seeds of our "kitchen waste". There, we rarely reach lethal temperatures (around 60 °).

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

We can recover, via commercial "potting soil", a lot of seeds, some of which are viable. I thus "picked up", despite myself, crabgrass (a beautiful filth - one of the rare weeds that I "hunt" because it is so invasive even in phenoculture) in a bag of potting soil. All the buckets made from this bag contained it. And they even appeared after planting, when I had "cleaned" the cups.

And yet, a priori, on the platforms they "control" the temperatures, mix mechanically ...

On personal "composts", these are often the seeds of our "kitchen waste". There, we rarely reach lethal temperatures (around 60 °).

It is sure that the seeds have a surprising vitality ....

Do not you have an idea for our salad - beetroot or something?

[Did67]

Mrs. cut the leek heads ... to recover the seeds.

As this is the first time, is that how to do it?

I do not like to hurt the ladies. I prefer to rejoice ...

But alas, this is not the right method!

It is necessary to wait until the seeds are formed on the stalk, in "fruits", which are kinds of capsules, which have become dry. And harvest right before it opens.

I have a hard time appreciating the photo, maybe it will still be fine and the seeds will form with what remains of "juice" ?????

The leek, like many vegetables (cabbage, carrots, celery, parsley ...), is a biennial. The first year is "photosynthesis - growth - accumulation of reserves in a fleshy root or a" pseudo-bulb "= the bottom of the swollen leaves" ...

The second year, after a period of cold (this is the "signal"), it is "to take care of producing flowers and then well-filled seeds so that the offspring is best assured".

The flower is there for fertilization; attract the browsers.

After fertilization, become irrelevant, she fades. If there is fertilization, the eggs develop into seeds and the ovary into fruit. It is understood that in botany, a fruit may be very dry (such as a grain of wheat or a bean pod matured). This can be the small black grains on the strawberries!

It is therefore important not to cut until the process of transfer and transformation of reserves from the pseudo-bulb to the seeds is not completed. The transformation aims to "concentrate" a maximum of energy in a minimum of space, so that the seed can "fly" further, while containing sufficient energy to start a plant during germination. So starch or oils or both are formed.

It is not primarily about drying, on the contrary. It is about filling !!! The lack of water, at this stage, is critical. It produces what is called, for wheat, a "scalding" = formation of small grains, not filled enough.

Once the process is finished, the seeds filled, the transformations made, the "fruit" naturally dries up. It is then, and only then, that it is necessary to harvest, finish drying and store well. Without delay, because often the "capsules" (dried fruits) open naturally or even "project" the seeds (in cardamine for example or oxalis).

Another example that shows that wanting to do in the place of nature is exposing oneself to doing stupid things!

[Did67]

Do not you have an idea for our salad - beetroot or something?

Where is this "beet salad" ????

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

It's a little what I feared .... I think she left one .... Thank you

If you do not have an idea for potatoes and beet or salad leaves or x?

[Did67]

If I understand correctly, you prefer that it is me that confuses me ???

[Did67]

For the potato, most probably early blight. A "cryptogamic" disease (caused by a fungus), similar to milidou, but different. I don't know where it was discussed with Julienmos.

Few remedies. Linked to excess moisture. And maybe sensitive varieties.

You can try to "slow down" the development, without curing, with potassium bicarbonate, volcanic rock powder, certain decoctions or liquid manure ...

That said, they are very "green-yellow", indicating a fairly marked lack of nitrogen / nitrate.

For beet-salad, I opt for beetroot etiolated (lack of light; growth under living cover ????; seedling too dense?). It is normal that there are no filled roots yet. They too suffer from a lack of nitrogen. The roots will fill in and become fleshy later. At this stage, we can transplant the "bare root" beets! You cut the end of the root. You cut some of the foliage. You transplant. It's flogged for eight days, time to take root and it starts again! In extreme situations ("dodger", no rain), you can shade with upturned crates and water a little on the line ...