Vegetable garden of the (super) lazy in the 04 (800m)

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 11/01/18, 23:37

Did67 wrote:A "plaster" with 10 cm of clay. Spread out, tread well ... Before EPDM, the pools were "treated" like this ... But these are not sloth pools ...

In nature, large lakes "clog" very quickly as the clays and silts of muddy streams settle [look at these spectacular images of "cracked crusts" when a dam is drained!].

In fish ponds, water is constantly renewed ...


Okay, so we're going to get past ... if we have courage : Oops:

But I already learned something because I didn't know it was possible
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 11/01/18, 23:54

Did67 wrote:
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Nothing grows but everything survives ... time has stopped: there in this case spinach (it's the same for lamb's lettuce).
These sowing in early October will soon be 4 months old ... hence the question ... are they useful?
Will spinach that has survived all winter be better?
I should have time to sow it again in a while: as much as the new sowing will double the old ...
Anyway it makes experience




Winter vegetables often overwinter at a "small seedling" stage. It is in spring, when favorable weather returns, that they will make the difference compared to the plants that you would sow or that you would then plant ... Before very quickly, in general, go to seed. So rush as soon as it reaches an "honorable" size without waiting for "it to get bigger again!"

On the contrary, more developed plants would "suffer" from the cold if it became (????) severe.


Ah thank you for this info, I admit that I have always grown only vegetables in summer ... so I discovered.

Precisely I was asking myself this question of the interest of sowing as much in advance compared to a sowing at the end of winter ...

So if I follow you, it's not useless ...
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by phil53 » 12/01/18, 07:36

For the slightly leaking ponds there is a clay which swells and plugs the leaks.
It's bentonite. It acts as Didier describes but the particles entrained in the cracks swell, this accelerates the natural process.
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by Did67 » 12/01/18, 08:54

What I proposed was to find a clay deposit (a place for example where the potters took their raw material ...) and to go there with a lot of wheelbarrows (or Bobcat - you seem to me well equipped I think of the backhoe to bury your greenhouse tarp).

But indeed, bentonite is used "industrially" ...
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by Did67 » 12/01/18, 08:58

nico239 wrote:
So if I follow you, it's not useless ...


No no, it's "made for" (to spend the winter, and to have "vegetables"!).

Certain vegetables spend the winter at a more advanced stage: chews, leeks, etc. We can then harvest between two frosts. But we must find the sowing date so that they already have a respectable size when the cold weather arrives and when we enter lethargy ...

The term "winter varieties" is a bit ambiguous. In our climates, vegetables "vegetate" in winter. As they do not control their temperature, physiology slows down very strongly. On the other hand, some therefore have mechanisms of "resistance" to freezing (concentration of juices, etc.).

FYI, at home, very little sun in recent weeks. The greenhouse [I'm talking about the one that is closed and does not play a helicopter!] Has almost no effect, because it does not accumulate anything. Where it rains. Or it is gray (arrived from cold masses in humid air masses = leaded sky) ... I dream of my years of youth where the Siberian high pressure settled with - 20 ° but a bright sun!
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 15/01/18, 22:45

A lot of greyness here too ....
Good water is good

We will see what it will give during the first warm-ups.

No info on bulb "resurgences" Image

In addition to some cayeux we also have some bulbs of plants that stand out ...

Not planted deep enough?
Yet AT PRIORI everyone was planted at the same depth ...
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by Did67 » 16/01/18, 09:53

Have you explored the track of a rodent which would come from below, gnaw the fresh roots, and which by sheer clumsiness, would "push" your bulbils upwards ???? Remove the bulb and dig with a finger to see if there is a gallery in the area ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 17/01/18, 00:53

Possible ... in a place for flower bulbs ...

For the other it seems more improbable but I will go and check ...

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 23/01/18, 01:01

Good news after the "storms" hoping that it stops a little ...

You should know that above Grasse towards Seranon there are lots of lying trees .... just to say that it blew even if with us it was a little cooler.

However, the tunnel could not go through this episode without leaving a few feathers.

In fact the problem is that on one side the tarpaulin was an obstacle although I did everything so that it was not the case.

Result that bent several poles and shook the stakes yet deeply sunk into the ground but as it has much more the ground has softened in depth.

Stakes, however, fitted with a "hook" under the point, that is to say if it has shaken

Anyway, here are the photos

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This is the good side: it opens well on both sides (inside - outside) so it did not suffer at all.


On the other side it's another music

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The drama was played out in several stages.

Unfortunately the last hoop at the bottom was moored to the stake you see.

And the rope passed UNDER the cover ... fatal option but how else?

Suddenly over the gusts of wind the tarp leaned on the rope under it and thread in needle it put pressure on the poles

I thought the wind was rushing enough below but it was not.

After which the collapse of the first hoops left me no choice but to consolidate with these two triple pulleys (for the price less than 10 € and the gusts of wind it took I can advise them without shade of a doubt).

Indeed the wind pressed on the whole and the domino effect was not far.

This probably limited this effect, but the first hoop obviously folded at the level of the carabiner.

However, he holds out.

We have supported the second arch with wood and we are waiting for sunny days to restore everything.

You gotta play muscles to straighten the hoops.

And after the question will arise.

Have piles made by an ironworker using concrete iron 14.

The "real" marquee stakes are a little expensive for my taste and they do not have a hook on the tip or so I have not found on the net.

I had thought of 5 shrouds on each side on each 1st hoop

OU

DO NOTHING AS on the arch of the front face, where there is however the same stake buried to the hilt, but which has never been guyed

And I wonder if this choice of the lazy would not be the best to finish ....
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