Eat insects! Let's be insectivores

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by Janic » 01/08/15, 14:57

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Once again, it's taking the problem upside down. Indeed feeding a few insects as an appetizer, it can be credible, but substituting this model for that of breeding, while these feed mainly on seeds and leaves, would be an ecological disaster worse than the first solution. In addition, the nutritional value of a product is not measured by the rate of protein (it is even the reverse) but by that of carbohydrates and lipids, but above all of all these elements in small and very small quantities such as mineral salts. and vitamins and enzymes, much more essential than the former.
So all the surfaces mobilized (plus all the structures to raise and especially avoid their escape into the wild) to feed all these insects would be much more rationally used for direct food of the inhabitants. But there again, there is an underlying way, some financial interests creating dependencies that do not admit.
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by Ahmed » 01/08/15, 16:00

The message of the FAO leader quoted by Pierre Yves, on the potentialities or limits of AB leaves no room for doubt, since it is very explicit: AB would, according to him, have an interest insofar as it would be able to create a new market.
It is the same for the breeding of these "saving" insects, which will not save people, but will come to fill the market and increase the economic dependence of the populations.
Fighting malnutrition is an ideal screen to promote the extension of the economy to all aspects of the existence of these populations, until now too marginal to be interesting.
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by Janic » 02/08/15, 08:01

I also think, regardless of the economic side, that worrying about hunger in the world (of course not worrying about what's going on here) is a way to give yourself a good conscience as you throw a bone in the dog under the table, which is just a waste of what is happening on the table. : Evil:
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by moinsdewatt » 27/02/16, 20:09

Crickets, locusts ... 100% "made in France" insect pasta

23 Feb 2016,

“What repels us is the name of the ingredient. But in truth it's delicious, especially with game,” smiles Alain Limon, preparing to launch new batches of cricket or cricket flavored pasta.


Or cricket-cricket for the most gourmet.
At 52, Alain Limon is the only employee of the Pasta Workshop in Thiéfosse in Lorraine, in the heart of the Vosges mountains (east of France).
But the small artisanal factory, created in 2012 by a French teacher, plans to hire again in the face of the success of its latest creation: insect pasta.
"The insect is the protein of the future, of very high quality, well assimilated by the body and gluten-free", explains the founder of the place, Stéphanie Richard.
The small factory produces four types of pasta, all made from small spelled flour: crickets, crickets, crickets and crickets, or crickets and porcini mushrooms.
"There is a little nutty taste thanks to the porcini mushroom and it looks like whole wheat pasta from a taste point of view", specifies the forty-something.
Stéphanie Richard was working on the development of a hyperprotein paste for athletes when a producer of Lyon insects contacted her to submit her idea.
Convinced, she launched the production of insect pasta for the holiday season. About 500 packages have passed within a few weeks.
- Success of curiosity -
"The product has been a huge success as it aroused curiosity", rejoices Ms. Richard who begins, in response to demand, her second production.
In his machine, Alain Limon mixes organic spelled flour from Toul, insect flour (7%) and whole eggs.
The brownish paste then emerges in the form of radiatori - pasta in the form of a small radiator with fluted edges -, fusilli, rooster crests, spaghetti or penne. They must then be dried for 12 hours at low temperature, before they can be placed in craft paper bags. In one day, the worker produces 180 to 200 kg of pasta, all flavors combined.
When she started in 2012, Ms. Richard produced plain pasta with fresh eggs. Then she diversified her production, stamped 100% Lorraine, with local products such as bear's garlic, nettles, saffron or small spelled.
"Everything is produced in Lorraine," she insists. Only durum wheat semolina, whose cultivation is incompatible with the region's climate, is "imported".
Almost four years later, "it is working so well that we will soon be able to hire a second person", says Stéphanie Richard, proud of her weekly production, which is around 400 kg.
She does not intend to stop there: the entrepreneur is working on a new recipe based on an emblematic cheese from the north of France, Maroilles, and also wishes to embark on the production of filled pasta.
At just over 6 euros per 250 g sachet, insect pasta remains more expensive than conventional pasta, but it can, emphasizes the designer, replace meat for people who do not eat it - or who prefer them. crickets.


http://www.leparisien.fr/laparisienne/s ... 570731.php
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by Christophe » 29/07/16, 10:14

You shouldn't eat cockroaches anymore, you have to milk them !! : Cheesy:

Soon cockroach milk for breakfast?

An international team of scientists may have discovered a food of the future. Diploptera punctata produces very nutritious milk.


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One of the scientists on the Indian team, Subramanian Ramaswamy, compared the nutrient supply of the liquid in its crystalline form, metaphorically called "milk", to that of buffalo milk, considered one of the richest. It has been found that cockroach milk is three times more nutritious than buffalo milk or any other variety of milk.

(...)


http://www.lepoint.fr/science/bientot-d ... 622_25.php
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by Janic » 29/07/16, 11:33

tomorrow's food?

The question of its exploitation then arose. How do you get hold of this fabulous source of protein since you don't get cockroach milk like you get cow's milk, by pulling on the udders? These crystals being obtained by breaking open the beast, we would eradicate the species in a few seconds. The journal International Union of Crystallography published a study this month by researchers from around the world (Canada, United States, France, Japan and India) claiming to have identified and sequenced the genes behind this substance. It would then be possible to produce cockroach milk in the laboratory in large quantities.


After GMO l There is no limit to mad scientists. Science without conscience is only ruin of the soul (and of the bodies!)
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by Christophe » 29/07/16, 11:45

Because you really expected cockroach farms with micro cutters? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

ps: beautiful animals anyway on the photo of the article !!
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by izentrop » 29/07/16, 12:23

moinsdewatt wrote:
What is the risk of eating insects?

The World | 09.04.2015 By Audrey Garric

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We know that insect-based food may well become generalized in the coming decades. The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) has declared itself in favor of the development of small-scale animal husbandry on a large scale in order to feed more than 9 billion human beings from here to 2030.
http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2015/04/09/que-risque-t-on-a-manger-des-insectes_4613087_3244.html
Presented like this, it will not sell, but in the form of appetizing little reads :).
If it's in their culture, to Africans ... go!

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by Christophe » 29/07/16, 12:34

90% of metabolism seems a lot to me anyway (how much do ... bacteria do?)!
Ditto for other animals elsewhere ... but it's not my specialty!

Otherwise insect powders are already produced, we talk about it above.
I believe that the Dutch are among the first to have launched.

After the regulation is more or less accommodating from one country to another with regard to such innovations ...

ps: enough agreement about the risks:

LeMonde wrote:Result: the consumption of insects, for human food as animal, presents various risks. They are chemical (venoms, pesticide residues, antibiotics or organic pollutants), biological (parasites, viruses, bacteria), physical (hard parts of the insect like sting, rostrum) and above all allergens. Proteins causing allergies, such as myosin or chitin, which are found in mites, crustaceans or molluscs, are also present in the insects studied. Finally, the dangers lie, according to the report, in "the conditions of breeding and production, for which it would be advisable to define a specific framework making it possible to guarantee the control of health risks".
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