Breeding cows and Salers in Livradois (Auvergne)

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by Obamot » 26/01/13, 09:08

Yes, coming from "human" beings it scandalizes me every time. Although I saw another report where the guys who led their breeding to the slaughterhouse (and in a few cases killed it themselves as with some label poultry) came out of this ordeal.

By cons in the animal kingdom, for example in felines, they have a kind of affection with their prey once they are dead ...

All this is decidedly very strange and testifies to a certain capacity for duplicity in humans.

In short, worse than cruelty animals.
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by Remundo » 26/01/13, 10:15

What was posted (the video) does not correspond at all to the methods of breeding in natural meadows practiced by the EARL VINCENT PESCHER.

After, we can be against eating meat, some are even against eating at all.

But this subject is not intended to be the place for debate.

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by Janic » 26/01/13, 17:43

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What was posted (the video) does not correspond at all to the methods of breeding in natural meadows practiced by the EARL VINCENT PESCHER.

It is not only a question of breeding methods because in the competitions only the breeders are shown, on the stack side, and hide the face side because they are not very shiny. So we can very well admire the beautiful beasts and veil our faces on their final fate which will sooner or later be slaughter for lack of profitability and not to shorten the sufferings of old age as for other domestic animals. This is called having sensitivity or having a heart!
Then breeding is one of the most polluting sectors on the planet, even more than industry and for an econologist it doesn't care!
Then we can be against eating meat,

The question is not there, you show a photo with a ridiculous hat as for a joyful event which will not be for the animal in question which is instrumentalized to awaken sympathy for an animal which will ultimately be slaughtered.
As for the pub for the chickens all happy to offer their flesh in ridiculous dances, pigs at the tail in corkscrews all happy to offer themselves for future sausages or ham, etc .... Then arises the question of whether it will be eaten or not is another aspect of the question, seen on another subject.
But this subject is not intended to be the place for debate.

Sorry you're on a forum ecological and that is also part of it. Go to the end of your process and show the fate that is reserved for them (why do slaughterhouses refuse to see what is happening there in the open and even less to be filmed) barely different from farm animals in drums. Hmm, carnal!
That said, they are indeed beautiful animals if I disregard their final fate (which is obviously impossible for me), if I disregard the cancers, the cardiovascular diseases that this generates in animals and in humans which consumes them.
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by Remundo » 26/01/13, 18:44

Slaughtering is precisely not the responsibility of the breeder.

It should be done with a stun gun. The animal does not suffer like this. "Some other" slaughterings cause animals suffering and are not sanitary clean.

Otherwise, since the sedentarization of men, we breed cows, and more generally animals, either to eat them or to milk them, just as we cultivate plants to cut and transform / eat them

If you want to debate about agriculture, open another subject instead of polluting this one. it would be really good.
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by Janic » 27/01/13, 08:31

hello remundo
Slaughtering is precisely not the responsibility of the breeder.

« Hide this breast that I cannot see "False modesty! it's not me, it's the other. This is the argument of the poppy growers: " I grow a product requested by consumers, I am not responsible for what is done next The gun manufacturer is not responsible for the use made of its products, either. All hypocrites!
It should be done with a stun gun. The animal does not suffer like this. "Some other" slaughterings cause animals suffering and are not sanitary clean.

This is what is supposed and again by fairly recent legislation! But it’s not about animal suffering, but from the indifference and hardness of heart of those who preside over these burnt offerings. The "Jews" may not have suffered, when they were gassed, in the specialized slaughter camps, that in no way justified those who led these living beings to death.
Many philosophers have expressed themselves on this similarity emphasizing the harshness and human indifference to the lives of others.
Otherwise, since the sedentarization of men, we breed cows, and more generally animals, either to eat them or to milk them, just as we cultivate plants to cut and transform / eat them

Likewise humans have also made weapons to kill each other! Does one justify the other? Then, you confuse a time when the life and survival of certain populations depended on a certain food as in very cold countries without vegetation or deserts; where necessity rules, but at that time we also thought that the earth was flat and the center of the universe. Today, ecological science warns us against this food culture endangering the whole of humanity, such as the destruction of forests in developing countries, the impoverishment of indigenous people, for taste satisfaction. wealthy countries; and that does not justify, however, the few countries, like ours, which can still take advantage of a few non-intensive residual farms (for the moment) but whose food (GMO) depends on cereal imports (as if the cows were granivores!) coming from exploited countries.
Finally medical science also warns about consumption anti physiological products (comparative anatomy) generating very serious pathologies that society has to bear with the deficits of the SS which widen a little more each time whether it is with meat or with milk. Pathologies which disappear at the same time as the cessation of consumption of these products.
If you want to debate about agriculture, open another subject instead of polluting this one. it would be really good.

It is not specifically about agriculture but about ecology as a whole, including the impact of animal husbandry on the planet. If a subject were opened up on nuclear power to underline its beauty and positive development, I doubt that it would not provoke contrary reactions even if it polluted the subject.
I admire the beauty and diversity of animals, but I cannot support the death trade !
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by Christophe » 27/01/13, 12:01

Janic, if you want to debate about meat, it's here: agriculture / hidden-face-of-the-meat-documentary t12244.html (among other subjects)

The rest of your participation here will be otherwise moderate ...
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by Janic » 27/01/13, 13:29

christophe hello
Janic, if you want to debate about meat, it's here: agriculture / hidden-face-of-the-meat-documentary t12244.html (among other subjects)
The rest of your participation here will be otherwise moderate ...


It is not specifically a question of debating on meat, but on the trade in death, whether that of cattle like elephants for their tusks, sharks for their fins, rhinos for their horn, pheasants for breeding released in front of hunters' noses or horned young bulls just before entering an arena to make believe that they are killers, etc ... or for their meat or their skin whether it is cow, panther, mink ... or baby seal! In this all environmentalists are concerned.
However, this subject seems to be more publicity than information, publicity contested when others seek to do theirs! But this is your site and I stop my intervention here.
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by Remundo » 28/01/13, 09:10

Some explanations on the Saint Bonnet de Salers Evaluation Station

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After a strict selection among the best Salers farms, the calves are housed for several months, until they become young bulls "hopes reproduction", also called"qualified bulls"

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They are then sold at auction for all breeders looking to diversify and improve the genetic heritage of their herd.

All the details of the animal evaluation protocol here

The animals presented this year by VINCENT-PESCHER breeding

Salers Evolution Group, ex UPRA (Union for the Promotion and Improvement of Race Salers)


For information, 32nd international sale of salt bulls will take place on Wednesday 06 February at the Saint Bonnet de Salers evaluation station, from 10 a.m., the animals being visible from 00 a.m.


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An appointment not to be missed for all connoisseurs and also the curious.
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by Janic » 28/01/13, 09:44

http://www.cantal.chambagri.fr/kitPublication/les-etudes-et-references/cheptel-bovin-du-cantal/graphiques/vaches-de-reformes.html


Moderate message, we warned you ... there is another subject for that
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by Remundo » 11/02/13, 09:01

Hello everybody

The results of the evaluation station and the latest hope bulls are available in the Salers VINCENT-PESCHER news.

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