A vegetable meadow?

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Re: A vegetable meadow?




by to be chafoin » 28/06/18, 16:25

Observation on some dried plants:
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melon
We see that the stem has been dried on only one part. Same thing on another vegetable:
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I imagine that this is a cumulative effect of slugs that have raped the stem in this place that has been weakened and dried out by the sun ... But what do you think?
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 28/06/18, 16:30

Oops ....

How many plants of each?
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by to be chafoin » 29/06/18, 16:39

nico239 wrote:Oops ....

How many plants of each?
It is especially the 2 or 3 melons ... For the celery it is much less serious (one or two plants but just 1 or 2 leaves)
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 30/06/18, 02:03

to be chafoin wrote:
nico239 wrote:Oops ....

How many plants of each?
It is especially the 2 or 3 melons ... For the celery it is much less serious (one or two plants but just 1 or 2 leaves)


I wanted to say how many touchdowns on the whole ....

If it's 2 on 20, I'm not sure what to panic about

If it's 2 on 2 it's not the same
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by to be chafoin » 30/06/18, 21:19

It's 2 melons on 3 and 1 celery on 8
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 02/07/18, 00:41

It's more annoying for melons ... it's about : Evil:
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by to be chafoin » 09/07/18, 00:25

Size of tomatoes and phenoculture
A small note in cutting my tomatoes I noticed that whole trees leave the bottom of the foot, located under the hay! Of style :
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As can be seen, there are even beautiful tufts of secondary roots:
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: Shock: So I wonder if it was a good idea to remove these "rejects"! : Shock:
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by Moindreffor » 09/07/18, 09:00

to be chafoin wrote:Size of tomatoes and phenoculture
A small note in cutting my tomatoes I noticed that whole trees leave the bottom of the foot, located under the hay! Style: 2018-07-08 21.57.26.jpg As can be seen, there are even beautiful tufts of secondary roots: 2018-07-08 21.58.00.jpg
: Shock: So I wonder if it was a good idea to remove these "rejects"! : Shock:

I also begin to ask myself the question
have several bunches of flowers on several branches and thus have more fruits at the same time at the beginning of the season, or spread the production by letting a main branch grow with several bunches of flowers, at the risk that the last bunches give nothing because of the arrival of mildew, all this implies a different conduct tomato feet, so a different material, so to study
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by to be chafoin » 09/07/18, 16:54

Moindreffor wrote:have several bunches of flowers on several branches and thus have more fruits at the same time at the beginning of the season, or spread the production by letting a main branch grow with several bunches of flowers, at the risk that the last bunches give nothing because of the arrival of mildew, all this implies a different behavior of tomato plants
I have not changed my technique much since 5 years. In the beginning I did not cut almost (do not do bobo to the plant!) And I found myself having to make buildings abracadabrantesques to stanch my feet that took incredible sizes. In addition these first years were catastrophic compared to the late blight, so with the foliage that I let explode I tell you not! Gradually I came back to more size without being systematic: I do a little depending on the wind : Cheesy: I think the 2 approaches are valid: with one we may have bigger fruits but less.
I think this is also related to the spread of the feet. As today I plant very tight (too much maybe: 30-40cm max between the feet), I usually drive my feet on 1 or 2 strands but if we have the place we can cut less.
What do you mean compared to different material?

My initial question was with regard to these rejects that are rooting in hay: did you notice more of these secondary roots on the bottom of the tomato's feet, thanks to the hay?
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by Moindreffor » 09/07/18, 17:09

to be chafoin wrote:
Moindreffor wrote:have several bunches of flowers on several branches and thus have more fruits at the same time at the beginning of the season, or spread the production by letting a main branch grow with several bunches of flowers, at the risk that the last bunches give nothing because of the arrival of mildew, all this implies a different behavior of tomato plants
I have not changed my technique much since 5 years. In the beginning I did not cut almost (do not do bobo to the plant!) And I found myself having to make buildings abracadabrantesques to stanch my feet that took incredible sizes. In addition these first years were catastrophic compared to the late blight, so with the foliage that I let explode I tell you not! Gradually I came back to more size without being systematic: I do a little depending on the wind : Cheesy: I think the 2 approaches are valid: with one we may have bigger fruits but less.
I think this is also related to the spread of the feet. As today I plant very tight (too much maybe: 30-40cm max between the feet), I usually drive my feet on 1 or 2 strands but if we have the place we can cut less.
What do you mean compared to different material?

My initial question was with regard to these rejects that are rooting in hay: did you notice more of these secondary roots on the bottom of the tomato's feet, thanks to the hay?

my father had made a staking system with 4 pole on the rand and long bars that ran all the way, so he could bind longitudinally and vertically with one single picket system I can only do vertical, so I lose a dimension that in my little garden is rather a bad point

the rejections under the hay, yes why not keep them, in fact I will try next year, to have floral bouquets, closer to the ground, to be able to plant my tomatoes earlier and lead the foot on several branches to have earlier fruits to try to get ahead of mildew
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