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by sen-no-sen » 08/11/11, 16:30

Macro wrote:
Two guys like me in their hammock allow us to feed a third ...



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In terms of the sports / non-sports comparison ... if the first goes to work by bike or running, and the second by car or public transport, the savings made by the first will no longer be in kcal but in kW! : Mrgreen:

In addition, given that it is not the number of calories expended that counts, but their origins ... if they come from a meat diet, their carbon impact will be many times greater than that of plants ...
Ecologically the benefit will always go to vegetarian food.


In short, by preventing two billion joggers from running all day long, we feed one billion people


Most joggers are people who run to lose weight, most are more of a diet, hence the error in your calculations.
And as long as we have to calculate the ecological footprint of our furry and feathered friends, why not blame the ecological problems on aliens as long as we have to do it! : Mrgreen:
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by clasou » 08/11/11, 17:09

Hello
Several points,
Are vegans / vegetarians anti GMO, pro organic, or it is not essential (animal suffering). In fact over the course of my readings, I said to myself that I should ask the question.

As for jogging, one more point, the muscles (heart and other get stronger and therefore are less greedy, better energy management (heart rate)

For the electric car not possible to do without nuclear, seen already with citro and you on another thread, citro intends to become autonomous, after it is a philosophy where the cost price is not the essential criterion.
So way to do without it, or so do like me do the 45 km / d in vae (good not all year it is true). But the consumption 1kw / h (hoping to write it) for 100 km , is it easier to do without the nuke.

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by Macro » 08/11/11, 18:05

clasou wrote:or do like me do the 45 km / d on the go (good not all year round it's true). But the consumption 1kw / h (hoping to write it down) for 100 km, is it easier to do without the nuke.

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This is the consumption of your bike in electricity. How much energy do you use to move this bike? How does your digestive system work?

As for the jogger ... The one who does it for the purpose of diet ... It is double the loss, the one who does it for the sole purpose of pleasure without any utility is simple loss but in any case his need and his calorie consumption will by definition be much higher than if he had done nothing.

Any displacement requires energy expenditure. Useless energy expenditure = pure and simple anteconology ... Whether the energy source is vegetable or animal.

A guy who does sport in a regular intensive way eats for 1,5..European he wears at the bitter stage ...

I had the case at my job. A guy with a Cretan and 8 km bike regime morning and evening at the pace of the senator, another thoroughly on the manigouince 15 terminals morning and evening ... the bowl went from simple to triple ... For the same type of template..Except that the one who eats seeds and three times nothing ... Well he abandoned the biguadin for the TER ... The other has become a mobile constable or he can now at leisure run for something ...

I say that but I do sport a generation of fast endomorphine..Not much..I swing a little strong on my hammock ... And from time to time I run after a good old chubby labrador..This has the taste of veal ... : Mrgreen:
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by clasou » 09/11/11, 06:07

Hello Macro, I'm not going to spread out (hammock) because, I like what has an interest.
But just to say, I have two solutions each time, generator of electricity, I recover or not to charge.
When has my fruits and vegetables, it grows without my intervention, I recover or I let rot.
Now, I'm sure you can tell me the expense that whoever goes to the parking lot and opens their door spends less.
Besides, how much consumes the one who does your drain. Or who changes the brakes of the ter.
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ps do not bother to answer or read, you will save calories. And the same waits for a power cut rather than risking maybe the work accident by pressing the button (lack of sport)
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by Janic » 09/11/11, 08:54

Clasou Hello
Several points,
Are vegans / vegetarians anti GMO, pro organic, or it is not essential (animal suffering). In fact over the course of my readings, I said to myself that I should ask the question.

With the VGR / VGL there is everything, and often anything, for that matter. It appears that the main motivations are:
The Healthcare
Ecology
Antispecism
The emotion, the affective (mainly feminine for that matter)
So some are fixed on one aspect and neglect or are indifferent to the others.
For example, green VGs do not understand that there are non-LV greenists given the impact of industrial farming or not, but will not necessarily be organic. Others will see the health aspect first and will be less affected by ecology or emotion, etc ... which gives lots of different VG as there are different green. The ideal, difficult to achieve, is to combine the whole. So there are few GMO pro (but some do not care), some are organic (and others do not care too) etc ... On the other hand, and it is new, there are more and more young people (20/30 years old) while “in my time” young people were rare since the main motivation was the health aspect, respect for the body, rejection of the (human) suffering generated by the effects of animal consumption.
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by clasou » 09/11/11, 11:05

Hello Janic,
Thank you for the answers, it is sure that it must initiate lively debates once.
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