Opinion on GOUPIL G5 electric van with lead batteries
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
Of course, the oil companies are producers of silver, whether from oil, wind, solar or geranium (sic) matter to them.
0 x
"Please don't believe what I'm telling you."
-
- Econologue expert
- posts: 5111
- Registration: 28/09/09, 17:35
- Location: Isére
- x 554
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
Ahmed wrote:Of course, the oil companies are producers of silver, whether from oil, wind, solar or geranium (sic) matter to them.
If you do not like oil tankers you can strike the wallet.
Provided you give up your car.
0 x
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
I'm sorry that you misunderstand completely the meaning of my message: maybe I was not explicit enough ... In fact, it was in your direction ...
This is a neutral statement and not a value judgment, besides what I say oil tankers applies to everyone ...
This is a neutral statement and not a value judgment, besides what I say oil tankers applies to everyone ...
0 x
"Please don't believe what I'm telling you."
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
Christophe wrote:Autonomy is not a really acceptable argument: few people who do more than 200 km per day off leisure or vacation ... ie 95% of people could be content for 95% of their journeys an autonomy of less than 400km ...
But then I understand very well that it can stress people to have "only" 100km remaining ... especially among women (hey yes ladies).
This kind of vehicle has little autonomy, about 70 kms and the course of the day is calculated on this data. It does not allow the improvisation (lengthen or shorten the time of use) because the cooldown is long and The new vehicle is equipped with gel / lead batteries with the same constraint, the ideal will be batteries that accept refills, even short, at any time.
The stress of autonomy: the picture of my avatar, I am in the south of Tunisia, I cross tracks that are not on my map and when I get to half my fuel I wonder if I should not to retrace my steps instead of continuing towards the unknown.
0 x
- sen-no-sen
- Econologue expert
- posts: 6856
- Registration: 11/06/09, 13:08
- Location: High Beaujolais.
- x 749
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
moinsdewatt wrote:RV-P wrote: .....- But there are still these oil lobbies, which ruin everything and slow down ideas ...
still urban legends.
tankers like Total and BP invest in charging stations for electric cars.
As the oil sector is essentially monopolistic (sic!), It has logically generated large multinationals.
Thus the thesis that the oil lobby wants to prevent the advent of a new source of energy is exaggerated and falls largely fantasy.
Since exponential economism requires a constant flow of energy to spread, any abundant and cheap source will necessarily be selected by the system when the time comes, the Peak coming soon understand why now the Major's are moving towards the ENR.
"Adapt or die" ...
1 x
"Engineering is sometimes about knowing when to stop" Charles De Gaulle.
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
Christophe wrote:Autonomy is not a really acceptable argument: few people who do more than 200 km per day off leisure or vacation ... ie 95% of people could be content for 95% of their journeys an autonomy of less than 400km ...
Do you see yourself doing 200 km in Goupil or a Piaggio Porter? The class on the 4 ways! These are utility "machines" (not to say rudimentary) which are not intended to travel a lot, but to turn not too far around a fixed point.
in addition the prices are really dissuasive ...
0 x
-
- Moderator
- posts: 79121
- Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
- Location: Greenhouse planet
- x 10973
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
Uh there is a mistake the friends, I did not speak of the Goupil but I answered RV-P, and particularly to this:
Which is the "basic" argument against the electric car ... I reply that there are other drawbacks more restrictive than autonomy ...
I will divide this subject ...
RV-P wrote:And the price: almost 2 times more expensive than a mid-range thermal vehicle for a range of less than half (400 km for a Tesla)!
Which is the "basic" argument against the electric car ... I reply that there are other drawbacks more restrictive than autonomy ...
I will divide this subject ...
1 x
Do a image search or an text search - Netiquette of forum
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
sen-no-sen wrote:Since exponential economism requires a constant flow of energy to spread, any abundant and cheap source will necessarily be selected by the system when the time comes, the Peak coming soon understand why now the Major's are moving towards the ENR.
"Adapt or die" ...
about this I read recently about 2000W / org an interesting brief ...
http://www.2000watts.org/index.php/ener ... stant.html
multinational oil and gas companies are diversifying into renewable energy, but timidly.
1 x
- sen-no-sen
- Econologue expert
- posts: 6856
- Registration: 11/06/09, 13:08
- Location: High Beaujolais.
- x 749
Re: Forum electric cars and trips
Remundo wrote:about this I read recently about 2000W / org an interesting brief ...
http://www.2000watts.org/index.php/ener ... stant.html
multinational oil and gas companies are diversifying into renewable energy, but timidly.
Yes thank you this article summarizes the situation very well:"The goal of the majors is not to extract oil but to generate dividends".
1 x
"Engineering is sometimes about knowing when to stop" Charles De Gaulle.
- RV-P
- I understand econologic
- posts: 158
- Registration: 27/09/12, 13:07
- Location: Sainte-Marie (Reunion Island)
- x 10
Re: Opinion on the GOUPIL G5 electric van with lead batteries
- By cons, I saw (because I had seen the report on TV) the famous Pierre Couture motor-wheel, before this project is downright "saber" by the policies of the time (1994)!
- But Japanese people did it, they: they equipped a Mini of these famous engines-wheels and the performances of this crew are properly hallucinating, see here !
- Pierre Couture, who is still alive, wants to renew that, by proposing vehicles on monorail, equipped with these famous motor-wheels (16 by unit) which would roll with ... 250 km / h suspended with 10 m of the soil, for a price the kilometer divided by 5 compared to our French TGV and which, in addition, would climb the coast like any car (no need to "plan" mountains)! And with all the weather in Canada, with 6 months of snow and frost, this full-length covered momorail would make fun of snowfall and freezing rain!
- ... Provided, once again, that the Canadian "pundits" support it, this time, instead of letting it "fall like an old sock"!
-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------
- Once, I saw a model of motor-wheel that Peugeot plans to ride on electric cars ... A small engine with gears and a fragile mechanics that could hardly withstand the dust ... The motor-wheel Pierre Couture, he is very simple: the stator is the hub and the rotor is the rim! Simpler, you die!
- It's like wind turbines made in China: rather than mounting a high-speed alternator with a gear train to multiply the speed of the blades, they returned to alternators-flying, with a large number of pairs of poles, which equipped steam engines, turning at low speed. No fragile gears, given the conditions of the Goby desert, where they plan to implement them (sandstorms)! The gears would not last long for a storm of very corrosive sand!
- Decidedly, there are corrections that are lost, in some policies!
- But Japanese people did it, they: they equipped a Mini of these famous engines-wheels and the performances of this crew are properly hallucinating, see here !
- Pierre Couture, who is still alive, wants to renew that, by proposing vehicles on monorail, equipped with these famous motor-wheels (16 by unit) which would roll with ... 250 km / h suspended with 10 m of the soil, for a price the kilometer divided by 5 compared to our French TGV and which, in addition, would climb the coast like any car (no need to "plan" mountains)! And with all the weather in Canada, with 6 months of snow and frost, this full-length covered momorail would make fun of snowfall and freezing rain!
- ... Provided, once again, that the Canadian "pundits" support it, this time, instead of letting it "fall like an old sock"!
-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------
- Once, I saw a model of motor-wheel that Peugeot plans to ride on electric cars ... A small engine with gears and a fragile mechanics that could hardly withstand the dust ... The motor-wheel Pierre Couture, he is very simple: the stator is the hub and the rotor is the rim! Simpler, you die!
- It's like wind turbines made in China: rather than mounting a high-speed alternator with a gear train to multiply the speed of the blades, they returned to alternators-flying, with a large number of pairs of poles, which equipped steam engines, turning at low speed. No fragile gears, given the conditions of the Goby desert, where they plan to implement them (sandstorms)! The gears would not last long for a storm of very corrosive sand!
- Decidedly, there are corrections that are lost, in some policies!
0 x
It's easier to just make things complicated than complicate simple things!
-
- Similar topics
- Replies
- views
- Last message
-
- 31 Replies
- 15342 views
-
Last message by phil59
View the latest post
28/08/21, 21:14A subject posted in the forum : electric transport: cars, bicycles, public transport, planes ...
-
- 2 Replies
- 4620 views
-
Last message by Obamot
View the latest post
19/10/22, 10:02A subject posted in the forum : electric transport: cars, bicycles, public transport, planes ...
-
- 9 Replies
- 41878 views
-
Last message by dirk pitt
View the latest post
28/10/15, 15:03A subject posted in the forum : electric transport: cars, bicycles, public transport, planes ...
-
- 8 Replies
- 11917 views
-
Last message by gildas
View the latest post
25/02/13, 16:14A subject posted in the forum : electric transport: cars, bicycles, public transport, planes ...
-
- 0 Replies
- 4378 views
-
Last message by Macro
View the latest post
05/12/11, 11:04A subject posted in the forum : electric transport: cars, bicycles, public transport, planes ...
Back to "Electric transport: cars, bicycles, public transport, planes ..."
Who is online ?
Users browsing this forum : No registered users and 164 guests