The end of the thermal vehicle arrives bright electric.

[sicetaitsimple]

No matter how hard I read myself, I can't find where I would have used the term "profitable"? I spoke of "acceptable cost".

On the other hand, who pays, there yes, it is necessary to find someone, that it passes directly or via subsidies, there is necessarily one or more pockets in which it is necessary to draw.

Uh "who pays" that is not part of a reasoning of profitability? Is that so?

Bah I can only resume your example above:

How is your Town Hall (for example) profitable? Accounting is a dry loss!

Yet there is someone who pays ....

[Christophe]

Absolutely: as for buses ... So your "who pays" is not an admissible argument since public transport is (yet ... not sure that it lasts!) Of the public service!

It's just where I wanted to go ...

[sicetaitsimple]

Absolutely: as for buses ... So your "who pays" is not an admissible argument since public transport is (yet ... not sure that it lasts!) Of the public service!

It's just where I wanted to go ...

What says otherwise could be: "a public service can spend what it wants without worrying about its efficiency", since "who pays" is not an admissible argument.

If that's just where you wanted to go ....

[Christophe]

Not really (I did not mention efficiency but the fact that the state had to set the example!) But I think we turn a little round there and no and that will annoy other readers ...

[sicetaitsimple]

Not really (I did not mention efficiency but the fact that the state had to set the example!) But I think we turn a little round there and no and that will annoy other readers ...

No problem, moreover you can read again, after my first post "Bravo la RATP", I only responded to false assertions or cookie-cutter judgments distorting my words.

We will therefore stick to "the State should lead by example", which at least is particularly consensual!

Kind regards.

[moinsdewatt]

Amsterdam no longer wants thermal vehicles on its streets by 2030

By Grégoire Huvelin the 06 May 2019

To permanently solve the problem of air pollution, the City Council of Amsterdam has decided to take the bull by the two horns: ban thermal cars from its roads to allow only electric and hydrogen vehicles to circulate. A regulation that the mayor wishes to apply by the year 2030 and to which the boats will also submit, Euronews tells us.

"We must act to make the air cleaner"

"We see that Amsterdam residents live one year less because of air pollution and that is why we must act to make the air cleaner," said Sharon Dijksma, Councilor of the Dutch capital. To great ills, great remedies.

To see if this positioning will set the example in the rest of the world, or at least in Europe.

https://www.clubic.com/mag/environnemen ... -2030.html

[moinsdewatt]

And a few months before:

Denmark wants to ban the sale of thermal cars by 2030

AFP 02 / 10 / 2018

A big bike country, Denmark on Tuesday announced a ban on sales of gasoline and diesel-powered cars on the 2030 horizon, setting an example for Europe.

"In twelve years - only twelve years - we want to ban the sale of new petrol and diesel cars", Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen said at the opening of the parliamentary session.

"I want a Denmark which is at the forefront, which pulls the world in a greener direction," said the successful cyclist.

"We are setting the course. And sending a clear signal to the EU, to the automotive industry and to the rest of the world," he said.

Chancellor of the fight against global warming, Denmark aims to become fossil fuel neutral in 2050.

Between 1980 and 2015, the carbon emissions of this Scandinavian kingdom have decreased by 38%, according to the State of Green institute.

With this ban, Denmark joins Iceland, which announced a similar measure in early September.

Champion of electricity while being the largest producer of hydrocarbons in Western Europe, neighboring Norway has set the goal of selling only new zero emission cars from 2025, without however formally prohibit others models.

In September, electric cars accounted for 45,3% of new registrations, a record, according to figures from the Road Traffic Information Council (OFV).

France plans for the end of the sale of new cars with thermal engine by 2040. The city of Paris has announced the total ban on diesel cars for 2024.

The UK is planning to stop 2040 from selling new conventional cars and vans powered by gasoline or diesel.

https://www.boursorama.com/actualite-ec ... 16ec697288

[Janic]

France plans for the end of the sale of new cars with thermal engine by 2040. The city of Paris has announced the total ban on diesel cars for 2024.

We tend to believe that France is reduced to Paris and the big cities.

The UK is planning to stop 2040 from selling new conventional cars and vans powered by gasoline or diesel.

but none seems to have really asked the question of the supply of all this electricity when everyone pulls on his meter at the same time, it will be a beautiful mess!

[GuyGadebois]

https://www.sauvonslaforet.org/petition ... 626&t=5650

[Bardal]

France plans for the end of the sale of new cars with thermal engine by 2040. The city of Paris has announced the total ban on diesel cars for 2024.

We tend to believe that France is reduced to Paris and the big cities.

The UK is planning to stop 2040 from selling new conventional cars and vans powered by gasoline or diesel.

but none seems to have really asked the question of the supply of all this electricity when everyone pulls on his meter at the same time, it will be a beautiful mess!

Uh, yes! Many people have thought about this question ... The very official RTE has even split a very complete report on the capacity of the French network to accommodate a few million EVs ... with a reassuring answer, moreover.