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by Other » 28/04/13, 01:25

Hello

Today a little ride on the track and the taxiway with an electric Chevrolet. Not trying long enough to get a good idea, but the manufacturers are on the right track for electric cars.
Surprising performance at acceleration even in electric mode possibility of using the electric motor and the 1,4 liter combustion engine which powers the generator, it's powerful
In winter the heating, defrosting, electric is faster to set up, autonomy in electric 80km fast charge under 220 volts or slower in 110 volts the plugs of current sector are limited to 15 amperes Although I would prefer a fully electric car, the government gives a bonus for those who buy auto electric.
the electrical distribution system with a card is not advantageous on a short stop (they understood as the parking you do not take the time of the cards, the next must use his card ...

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by Cuicui » 28/04/13, 09:50

Andre wrote:Hello Today, a little ride on the track and the taxiway with an electric Chevrolet. 80 km electric range
Great! What is the autonomy with the heat engine?
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by Remundo » 28/04/13, 11:19

Thank you Andre for this return to the Chevrolet Volt which adopts the right concept for its propulsion.

Namely a vehicle with a predominantly electric, and a gasoline generator which is started on demand (and ideally rarely) to extend the range.

I apply the same principle on the CATHI Berlingomoreen, with the addition of Nicad / LiFePO4 batteries.

However, the electric Berlingo was not intended to carry a generator ... The Chevrolet Volt is much more accomplished from this point of view.

@Cuicui : The Chevrolet Volt declares a range of around 500 km in thermal propulsion. We read a consumption of around 7L / 100 km with a 35L tank ...

To test in the field, for who wants to put 40 € on this car. :P
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by Cuicui » 28/04/13, 11:51

Remundo wrote:@Cuicui : The Chevrolet Volt declares a range of around 500 km in thermal propulsion. We read a consumption of around 7L / 100 km with a 35L tank ...
To test in the field, for who wants to put 40 € on this car. :P
We look forward to seeing you! Remundo, for details. When is a rustic and inexpensive vehicle based on the same principle? Does your Berlingo still have its tank? Really no way to add a small diesel generator capable of providing enough to take 100 km / h while cruising? An all-electric range of 40 km would be enough to make it my ideal car ...
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by Remundo » 28/04/13, 12:18

The Berlingo Electric has seen its initial tank reduced to around ten liters. These 10L of gasoline supply a "Webasto" gasoline burner exclusively intended for heating the passenger compartment, so as not to cut off the range by inadequate electric heating on an EV.

Berlingo CATHI has 120 km of autonomy with its 8 kWh of Li-On and its 16 kWh of Nicad.

Mon generator on board 15L of petrol and theoretically makes it possible to extend the range by around 150 km.

In practice, I do not have the place of the generator. I would have to mount this generator either on the roof (not good for aerodynamics), or on a rear door (not good for hinges). The compartment under the hood is already full, even if with a lot of will and technical skill, we could perhaps find room.

As I do not need in my daily use of 270 km of autonomy, I have not made these technical adaptations. I just take my group on a few rare occasions in the back space of my van.

This removable nature of the generator set does not only have disadvantages: it makes it possible to eliminate its dead weight for all short journeys, and to have other uses for it than the car (domestic cogeneration, site group, emergency electricity ) ...

To return to the subject: it would be up to the manufacturers to do what needs to be done ... : Idea:

Chevrolet offers something technically good *, but too expensive.

The vehicles everyone is waiting for have already been mass produced. Kangoo Elect'road, Dassault / SVE Cleanova on a Renault base ...

The entire Nicad PSA generation (106, Saxo, AX, Berlingo, Partner) could easily integrate a range extender in a post-engineered version and cheap.

All these projects are dead or never saw the light of day through political-industrial decisions.

Therefore, Sycamore has developed its own automobile from a good existing base: the Berlingo Electric ...

With rather derisory means on my prototype, I obtain remarkable results, close to the new electric and hybrid vehicles mainly offered by the "big names".

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* Even if the 100% Lithium battery pack is a questionable choice.
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by Other » 29/04/13, 01:18

Hello

To test in the field, for who wants to put 40 € on this car.

the cost is 40 000 $ (a little expensive) the government of Quebec gives a return of 8000 $ to encourage the electric cars
A step in the right direction ..
It remains to install a 110 volt outlet system everywhere around the restaurants shopping center at the employers for their worker who parks ect .. it is something relatively easy to do given the low cost of electricity .

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by I Citro » 04/05/13, 16:41

It's true, the VOLT / AMPERA is expensive, but what benefits and what driving pleasure.
For having had the pleasure of getting behind the wheel of this superb car, I wonder why some people buy BMWs or similar vehicles that are as expensive and much more archaic ...
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by Remundo » 04/05/13, 22:56

About the Volt ... An article by motor Nature

With a nice photo and an official US price at 39 125 $

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I summarize you: The goal is to reduce manufacturing costs for the "Volt II" by 25%

Good and well there will be in my opinion new end of series and interesting opportunities within 24 to 30 months ...

The fact remains that these cars are not very marketed in Europe ...
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by Did67 » 04/05/13, 23:00

Do not worry ! BMW, Porsche hybrid or electric are coming! For those who feel naked if they haven't put 100 euros or more in a car ...

The electric: http://www.bmw-i.fr/fr_fr/bmw-i3/
http://www.voiture-electrique-populaire ... embre-2013


The hybrid: http://www.bmw-i.fr/fr_fr/bmw-i8/
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by Did67 » 04/05/13, 23:05

Remundo wrote:
The fact remains that these cars are not very marketed in Europe ...


The Chevrolet Volta is called Ampera at Opel, which sells it almost 46 euros (before premium I think): http://www.opel.fr/vehicules/showroom/v ... opel_Broad
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