polluting electric car?

[chatelot16]

the main question to judge the ecological interest of the electric car is the battery! expensive and has limited life ... and we do not know yet rcycling lithium

the electric motor is not the weak point! low price, long life, 100% recyclable, so long life that the electric car engine can be used for other purposes when the car will be dead!

[lilian07]

Yes, the battery is the perfectible element but all eyes are turned to improve ... Fabrice André in his report about the electric car with integrated solar panels. In my opinion it's a bad idea, it's better to cover the south roofs of high-performance solar panels than to find complex materials that will have to ensure in the first place the body of the car.
There is still a lot of unnecessary space (roofing) to cover before arriving at such optimization.
In the first place the roof of the hyper market that consumes enormous amount of energy in the summer and in the middle of the day.
It is technical progress that will carry political choices.

[Ahmed]

Fabrice André is certainly a sympathetic character, but carried away by his enthusiasm, I fear that he falls partly in what he denounces: conformism ... and, more serious (but it follows from it), in nice heresies, this that suggests his interest in Raoul Hatem.
On the latter, you don't have to be a rationalist with a restricted vision to gauge the ridiculous side of these "discoveries"! *

* And it is fortunate that this is so because these self-proclaimed benefactors of humanity do not realize the intensity of their desire to go beyond what all the others are already doing so disastrous. ..

[Janic]

I fear that he falls partly in what he denounces: conformism ... and, more serious (but it follows from this), in heresies, what his interest in Raoul Hatem suggests.
On the latter, there is no need to be a rationalist with a restricted vision to gauge the ridiculous side of these "discoveries"! *.

Ah, rationalism at all costs! Many of the techniques that surround us derive from supposed derisory odds
Pasteur fought to highlight the possibilities that vaccines could have as an impact on the health of populations (well it was a real discovery derisory, it!) But the rationalists of his time did not believe it. Rudolph Diésel almost did not succeed in his system and the rationalists who surrounded him did not believe it ... either!
The subject on water doping is still controversial because the "scientific" explanation does not yet exist, and the benchings are generally failures while the users notice significant reductions indisputable, likewise for homeopathy, dowsing, therapeutic magnetism, etc.
The quantum site shows all these extra-ordinary cases that were denied, fought, until the disappearance of their authors, not because they did not work, but because they questioned assumptions.

[Leo Maximus]

Yes since the initial question is: what energy (to date) to replace the world fleet (and not a few thousand vehicles here and there) of all types of vehicles ...

A few thousand vehicles here and there?

Every year around the world, millions of electric motors and batteries are produced for cars.

In China, in 2017, 600000 electric cars (PEV and PHEV) were sold. Numbers : https://cleantechnica.com/2018/01/29/20 ... superstar/. 750000 expected this year. The million will be reached before 2020.

[Gaston]

In China, in 2017, 600000 electric cars (PEV and PHEV) were sold.

On a total of more than 26 million cars.

The million will be reached before 2020.

The Chinese auto market will be about 30 million in 2020.

It's still marginal.

[Ahmed]

JanicLet us be serious: it is not possible to infer from a certain number of cases a general law that dispenses with thinking about the basis of what is upheld (analogy is the least good reasoning). Watch the video * ofHatem on his engine which drives several others because of magnetized crowns and considers the comments of the character who insult an elementary logic. He could just as easily replace his magnetized device with simple belts, his video proves nothing, if not his flagrant incomprehension of electricity.
I agree with you that science does not describe and can not (by definition and mode of operation) describe the whole world, but only an amputated part of reality; this does not mean that any phantasmagoria is valid so far ...

* Sorry, I can not insert video anymore ...?

[Janic]

Janic, let's be serious: it is not possible to infer from a certain number of cases a general law that dispenses with thinking about the basis of what is upheld (the analogy is the least good reasoning). Check out Hatem's video on his engine, which drives several others because of magnetized crowns, and considers the character's comments which insult an elementary logic. He could just as easily replace his magnetized device with simple belts, his video proves nothing, if not his flagrant incomprehension of electricity.

On the one hand, I mention Hatem only as one of others that have been a priori that it would not work, nothing more. For Hatem, I have no electricity and I have no claim to support or reject this experience. I just see on the video lamps lit at power far exceeding the power of the first "engine" and there does not seem to be any cheating.

I agree with you that science does not describe and can not (by definition and mode of operation) describe the whole world, but only an amputated part of reality; this does not mean that any phantasmagoria is valid so far ...

Exactly everything is there. I reread the case of Browm and his gas that looks like a phantasmagoria too and yet ... so muove!
The 09 / 02 / 1978, Mr. Hansard of the New South Wales Legislative Council and the Legislative Assembly of Australia testify to the fact that Brown drove his own car on 1600 kilometers while consuming a single gallon of water (3, 78 liters USA)
Only with water and I pass on all the comments which decreed that it was not possible! Like Tesla by other means! And this:
In August 1991, Australia, Brown was successful experiments on samples of 60 Cobalt, Strontium 90 and 241 Americium: radioactivity was reduced to 60 90%.
Taken literally by the Chinese, the director of Baotou introduced Brown in another institute, the 202, specializing in nuclear, who wrote (in Chinese) for Norinco report on these experiences. The report referred to a radioactivity of 70% reduction.
Back in the USA, in June 1992, Brown repeated the same type of experiments in front of Dzaikich, Ennis, and Lee Peterson, reporter for the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin. This newspaper published on June 26 an illustrated article titled: "A modern alchemist? A strange science. This inventor says he can reduce radioactivity. Experts do not agree".
Peterson wrote: "Brown placed a strip of americium under the flame for two minutes on a brick with small pieces of steel and aluminum. After melting, the metals emitted a flash which caused Brown to say that the radioactivity was destroyed. Before the experiment, americium (which comes from plutonium) emitted 16.000 curies per minute. It emitted only 100 afterwards, which is the value of the radioactivity naturally present in the laboratory before the experiment "….
... .. "This has dropped the measures of the order of 2500%. It can also be said that it left a radioactive waste of 0,04% of the level of radiation before experiment (or less considering the ambient radiation levels.) "

And during that time, we do not know what to do with our radioactive waste by refusing to admit these phantasmagoria in question

[lilian07]

At first the EV will not be able to do without nuclear power in France but it will probably improve the production of the plants and may even reduce their number. Of course by increasing the use of renewable energy and better management of the smart grid.