A solar home to almost autonomous thermal buffer

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Re: A solar home to almost autonomous thermal buffer




by sicetaitsimple » 18/12/17, 21:07

nico239 wrote:
And we were very very very surprised to be able to heat 150m2 on one level without any problem with a small stove Cast Flame Ilam 7kw (it was in place when we bought)



I am very very surprised too! Not so much by the power needed, rather by the fact that you get to heat 150m2 with a stove that is according to the picture at a corner of the house.

At the other end of the diagonal it must still curdle, no? A small electric booster in the orphaned rooms, like at home?
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 19/12/17, 00:08

sicetaitsimple wrote:
nico239 wrote:
And we were very very very surprised to be able to heat 150m2 on one level without any problem with a small stove Cast Flame Ilam 7kw (it was in place when we bought)



I am very very surprised too! Not so much by the power needed, rather by the fact that you get to heat 150m2 with a stove that is according to the picture at a corner of the house.



I know too
2006 11 xNUMX 15.7 September House, 3 rooms, south / north facing, thick curtains on all windows and parquet bedroom, office and dining area on tiled floor plus thick carpet on parquet in office and bedroom and on tiled floor in the living room.

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At this moment, all doors open of course
- outside -6
- main room south and north (living room, dining room, kitchen) purring stove, ie 50% of its power: 20.7
- south room (mid-room thermometer) 17.9
- north office (thermometer "at the other end of the diagonal) 17


sicetaitsimple wrote:At the other end of the diagonal it must still curdle, no? A small electric booster in the orphaned rooms, like at home?


At the bottom of the diagonal is in the office (the small electric heater - normal - is always there but not used).
For the moment no: with parquet, heavy curtains and thick carpets it is perfectly pleasant.

In the room we removed the radiator that was encumbering us (the airedou do 1.20 long ... pfff)


Honestly it does not seem that the manufacturer has demonstrated a special technique for insulation (a priori placo / wool glass / placo ... I do not know what is between the outer plasterboard and the facade proper ... I have never pierced in this direction)
We do not have the original documents for the construction of a house that was to be a second home rather summer vocation.

All this to say that a good orientation, good insulation, a good interior and probably also a good stove are perhaps as effective but above all much cheaper than a deluge of expensive alternatives ...

Which does not prevent me from admiring these alternative solutions.
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by Gaston » 19/12/17, 09:16

Yes ... insulation is the most effective technique.

Unfortunately, it is also often the one that is the most difficult to implement if it was not done at construction :?
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by Ahmed » 19/12/17, 19:17

This idea of ​​cylinder filled with water to bring inertia is very interesting in principle and avoids the current trend, too common, to form a simple bubble of hot air.
From a practical point of view, this steel envelope is, on the bottom, very economical since forming steel sheets in round is a very simple technical operation and the most logical in all respects to obtain a volume; it is sufficient to then weld the plates to obtain the desired cylinder. What strikes the process from the point of view of cost is only its unusual side and the windfall effect that it arouses from this fact. This is why I believe that we must not stop at this circumstantial observation.
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by Remundo » 20/12/17, 09:26

we mountain Auvergne, have developed a sharp technology for centuries ...
* houses sunk in the ground, on the hillside,
* South facing, with not very big windows
* stone wall of more than 1m wide
* thick straw roofs
* wood heating

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by Ahmed » 20/12/17, 16:33

Of course, but the mountains are difficult to move ... on the other hand, we must update the techniques.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 20/12/17, 19:58

Remundo wrote:we mountain Auvergne, have developed a sharp technology for centuries ...
* houses sunk in the ground, on the hillside,
* South facing, with not very big windows
* stone wall of more than 1m wide
* thick straw roofs
* wood heating

: Lol:


Ouh we are in full folklore ... Image

We had a house with stone walls of 1m and which is also slightly buried .... and glass wool on the roof ... and yet ... with a big Godin Cantou (2 times bigger than the current little thing we have ... it was a fridge ...

Ah it was beautiful and typical for that yes Image

But for the rest... Image
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by Remundo » 20/12/17, 21:37

it is not a fridge, it is regulated around 15 ° C to the average year with little heating. In summer it stays cool and it's super nice.

the downside was the openings too small, so dark inside, feeling "walled in".
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 20/12/17, 22:11

Remundo wrote:it is not a fridge, it is regulated around 15 ° C to the average year with little heating. In summer it stays cool and it's super nice.

the downside was the openings too small, so dark inside, feeling "walled in".


Oh no 15 ... and I can tell you to have gradually stopped warming me (when I was alone).

We fall to 6 about ... Image

Honestly it is done very well, just find the right clothes ...

The worst is that I had a vest made of sheep ... (the thing hyper baba - but very very hot - with long hairs) that I put in the beginning then less and less so the cold gets used to it without any problem ... just as 18 or 20` Image

And you're right the windows is still more fun than the loopholes (we had) ... and very suitable for the winter since the sun down penetrates far on the sofas when we need it and does not fit it's hardly summer when it's high and we'll do without it.

Honestly we do not know absolutely what is the "put together components" that allows the conservation of heat or freshness but all we can say is that it is possible and that, for once, it turns out damn economic.
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