Is the future of humanity really in space?

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Re: Is the future of humanity really in space?




by Ahmed » 07/02/18, 21:18

Undoubtedly, due to the complete colonization of the Earth, but what would be the possible profit potential?
As there are no customers or anyone likely to be exploited, there remains only mining (or vice versa, which is also complementary: the export of garbage); still the enormous cost of transport justifies the operation ... From the point of view of energy balance, we are still far from the account!
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Re: Is the future of humanity really in space?




by sen-no-sen » 07/02/18, 21:29

Exponential Economism is a system totalizing by nature, after having developed in time (1) and space (2) and after having colonized all sectors of life (3), transforming social relationships in passing, it only remains now only the space to develop.
Space technology is a fantastic way to get rid of the overflowing abstract value by promising if I can say the Moon, see Mars.
The space sector should boost innovation.
1) Since 1850 at least, and the future is not to be outdone, in particular by colonizing our psyche and putting us on the highways of economic determinism.
Debt is a fantastic way to control the future.
2) All the countries of the world are now colonized, only the Antarctic - uninhabited continent - remains (for how long?) Sheltered (coastal tourism via ocean liners is developing, however).
3) Everything can now be bought or sold legally or illegally (weapon, drug, all or part of human beings ...)
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Re: Is the future of humanity really in space?




by Ahmed » 07/02/18, 21:37

Space technology is a fantastic way to evacuate the too full of abstract value by promising, if I may say so, the Moon, even Mars.

Of course! However, this evacuation of the overflows of abstract value supposes that the condition of its valorization, or at least the belief in it ... is fulfilled ... (if not, there is a long history that hunger and misery would have been eradicated. .)
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Re: Is the future of humanity really in space?




by sen-no-sen » 07/02/18, 21:38

Ahmed wrote:Undoubtedly, due to the complete colonization of the Earth, but what would be the possible profit potential?
As there are no customers or anyone likely to be exploited, there remains only mining (or vice versa, which is also complementary: the export of garbage); still the enormous cost of transport justifies the operation ... From the point of view of energy balance, we are still far from the account!


The phenomenon of monopolization has favored the accumulation of wealth by a minority.
Space tourism, although in the planning stage, is part of the logic of maximum dissipation of energy by its oligarchs and logically turns to space.
Space is also a sector of the future for defense, the wars of the future will be space (intelligence, and "preventive strikes"), via combat drones and satellites.
A large part of the globe still remains to be linked by communications networks, etc.
However the great space leap forward will not have places I think before more efficient propellants see the light of day, which should happen with the mastery of fusion, the situation will then be completely changed ... so well and only if obviously no collapse occurs before! : Lol:
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Re: Is the future of humanity really in space?




by Ahmed » 07/02/18, 21:45

Yes, if we restrict the term space, the activities you mention fit perfectly into current logic and perspectives.
There is no doubt that other technologies are required for more distant explorations, under the aforementioned condition! : Wink:
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by chatelot16 » 07/02/18, 21:57

not easy to imagine the colonization of a planet ... it is not enough to choose the planet in space it is also necessary to choose in time

inverse problem: extra terrestrials arriving on earth ... long before the dinosaurs the earth was good for nothing, no breathable atmosphere

in the dinosaur era even worse! dinosaurs break everything before extraterrestrials can settle

a few million years later bad too the men will have ruined the earth ... complete desert

for extra terrestrials to come to earth you have to come exactly now ... soon it will be too late
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by sen-no-sen » 07/02/18, 21:58

Ahmed wrote:Yes, if we restrict the term space, the activities you mention fit perfectly into current logic and perspectives.
There is no doubt that other technologies are required for more distant explorations, under the aforementioned condition! : Wink:


For my part I do not think that humanity is a great future in space, but as Clemenceau (regarding the "non role" of aviation in future wars) I could be wrong.
For the moment, I especially see spatial development as yet another strategy of the economic system to guarantee its extension.
The launch carried out by SpaceX is part of this logic: a huge and very expensive publicity stunt.
Formerly they planted flags on the Moon history of marked are territory, now we send cars to advertise! So I preferred the patriotic momentum! : Lol:
The overall idea is to sell dreams to generate ever more abstract value, and what could be better than space? There are no more limits outside our atmosphere! This is enough to motivate investors! : roll:
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Re: Is the future of humanity really in space?




by Christophe » 07/02/18, 22:00

Watch Interstellar the zamis before dreaming of colonization, it will take hundreds of years ...

And still I think that it is far from the account compared to the real difficulties ...

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by sen-no-sen » 07/02/18, 22:02

I never mentioned human colonization, but economic,shade!
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Re: Is the future of humanity really in space?




by Janic » 08/02/18, 11:01

In the past, flags were planted on the Moon to mark the territory’s territory,
Only because they couldn't lift their paws to urinate! : Wink:
It is true that the conquest of space is a childhood dream influenced by the stuffing of the skull, films, newspapers, magazines which make believe Santa Claus in combination of astronaut, as frequently express these same cosmonauts . However, people do not like having their dreams, their hopes, their fantasies, their fear of death (individual and collective) shattered and see it as a way out of an ubiquitous situation.
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