Cloning of monkeys: the therapeutic cloned man, it's for tomorrow!

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Cloning of monkeys: the therapeutic cloned man, it's for tomorrow!




by Christophe » 25/01/18, 23:50

Here we will "all" soon be entitled to our therapeutic clone with stem cells and organs at will ... What is not ethical? It is enough to leave his "copy" in a coma all his "life" !! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

What am I a monster? Meuuuuh no, it's always better than murder!

My God that the future looks nice !! : Shock:

Scientists have just cloned monkeys. And tomorrow, the human being?

Since a few hours, Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua are famous. These two little monkeys - whose images circulate everywhere - represent a scientific breakthrough: they carry the same genetic inheritance, like homozygous twins, whereas they are born with a few weeks apart in a laboratory of the institute of neurosciences of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, Shanghai.

In other words, they are clones. And even the first primates cloned thanks to the method that made it possible to create Dolly in 1996. It was the first mammal cloned from an adult cell taken from the teats of an ewe. Since then, "twenty or so other mammalian species, including dogs, cats and pigs have been cloned, but primates have proved particularly difficult [to clone]," says Hong Kong's South China Morning Post. (SCMP). Chinese researchers describe how they did it in the January 24 Cell Science Journal.

Hope to cure genetic diseases
"According to scientists, populations of genetically identical monkeys will be useful for research on human diseases," reports BBC News. This would allow, for example, to be able to observe the impact, on one of these monkeys, of the modification of a gene linked to human pathologies, and to compare its state of health with macaques with the same genetic inheritance before the alteration of the gene in question. New Scientist details:

The idea is to accelerate the identification of genes and genetic processes that cause these diseases, to better remedy, says the Chinese team.

On the side of the Chinese press, we are delighted to see the country's scientists at the center of the world's attention. Yu Dawei, a journalist with the economic magazine Caixin, notes that "in the wide coverage [in the Chinese press] of macaque cloning, this is what holds most the comments: Westerners were the first to clone a sheep, but the cloning of a monkey, they did not do it. Could it be because they do not have the level, or is there a particular reason? he asks rhetorically. Is China now at the cutting edge of cloning? "

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by Janic » 26/01/18, 08:43

science without conscience is only ruin of the soul! Medical Nazism also boasted of humanism! : Evil:
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by Christophe » 26/01/18, 11:41

Talk about Charles ... what must happen will happen! In 50 years, we will be laughing about the "ethical" debates we are currently having on human cloning!

Was there so much ethical debate at the time about the development of the nuclear bomb (as a reminder it is a weapon who kills), while cloning may be a technological that can save some... it seems to me that no ... : Shock:
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 26/01/18, 12:35

We will do how to clone a human and keep it under a bell until we need its organs Image
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by Christophe » 26/01/18, 12:50

That's what I supposed above: leave him in a permanent coma ... : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

We can also clone only certain organs certainly in less than 20 or 30 years!

The film which is already a few years old, The Island, little known, has well addressed the subject ...

(Cinematographically the first part is very good, the second a lot less!)

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 26/01/18, 13:27

I know him very well and it is on that we see ALL the IMMENSE PROBLEMS that could pose a human cloning ....

Already all ethics aside it's almost insoluble this thing so I do not see the future of the idea.

Moreover, in 20 years we have not made much progress.
It's like walking on the moon : Mrgreen:
It's buzz but behind .... not much

Except perhaps for the technical evolutions induced.
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by Christophe » 26/01/18, 13:32

nico239 wrote:Moreover, in 20 years we have not made much progress.


I would be much less affirmative on this point than you ...there is progress and progress that the general public sees!

There are often years of lag between 2!
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by Janic » 26/01/18, 14:39

This type of behavior, called biological, is only the continuity of this purely mechanical vision of the living. The surgeon has become a kind of garage repairing breakdowns, which changes by spare parts (used) the failing organ.
Cloning for the purpose of storing "new" spare parts is only continuity. And why not take spare parts of an original individual to graft rather on the clone in better condition? Because, for the moment, nobody knows if the clone is only a photocopy in 3D (very fashionable) without personality, without knowledge, without consciousness of being or on the contrary in all respects identical to the least details, in the smallest fiber, thought, affectivity, ethics. Am I him or is he me? : roll:
"Science without conscience is only the ruin of the soul" must still have a conscience ... and a soul! And it is not won in advance.
I know him very well and it is on that we see ALL the IMMENSE PROBLEMS that could pose a human cloning ....
Unfortunately, we can not just see these huge problems in question because it is an area that is still unknown and can be much worse than presupposed. : Evil:
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by izentrop » 26/01/18, 16:10

Do not panic : Wink:
if someone had a real interest in cloning human beings, then it would have been a long time ago, says a researcher interviewed in the columns of the daily DER TAGESSPIEGEL. According to him, there would be no good reason to clone humans: "to make a copy of oneself in order to cope with the future need for an organ transplant, this terrifying scenario can only be imagined by fiction writers. It is not realistic.


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