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by Janic » 05/03/13, 15:49

Wow, it seems to hear a biblical scholar.
I did not speak of immortality, but eternity.

Indeed there is an important difference between the two immortality underlies a continuity of life in this form or another, eternity is only an "inscription", a memory, of time and lasts as long as that -this (as long as time has its own existence), a bit like an image on its support.
According to general relativity, we live in a block universe where past, present and future are simultaneous.
Our classical conception of time is imbued with presentism, in fact we have the impression that the past no longer exists and that the future does not yet exist, as if we are "surfing" on a present wave advancing on nothingness.
This time of printing passes or flowing still wonder many scientific, it would be for many of them a product of consciousness, it is a vast subject ...

It is indeed one of the biblical teachings that time has only a relative dimension or past and present are only a linear perception of it. Hence the prophecies which can announce a distant future not yet realized, but inscribed in a space time not attached to the "present" moment. Like what, even with a metro behind, the sciences, with their current tools, only confirm what was already known, it is moreover its purpose, which completely sticks to the notion of relativity.
The consequences of this philosophy, which nevertheless stems from hard physics, is very important, because it would allow - even if this has not yet been demonstrated and remains in the domain of the empirical - to give a theoretical basis explaining the pre- cognition, retro-cognition, synchronicities (which were studied by Wolfgang Pauli, Nobel Prize in physics in 1945, metempsychosis) etc ...

or even divination and mantic, astrology, spiritualism, etc ...
We are therefore very far from the scientist and "materialist" vision that many people attribute to science.

True science is not which materialist, but covers everything related to the acquisition of knowledge or in any case certain knowledge, including that which materialists reject.
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by sen-no-sen » 05/03/13, 18:41

Janic wrote:True science is not which materialist, but covers everything related to the acquisition of knowledge or in any case certain knowledge, including that which materialists reject.


Absolutely.
Still it would be necessary to agree on what materialism is.

Definition of materialism according to Larousse:"Philosophical doctrine which affirms the primacy of matter over spirit".

This is where it gets complicated.
It seems to me that it is a concept that is aging badly.
And it's a pretty western concept.
In reality if we study consciousness, we realize that it is an emerging phenomenon of a set of interactions in the brain.
Its interactions are electro-chemical.
It is therefore not a palpable object, but a virtual representation.
Its support: particles. What are they made of? On atoms.
Who has it beyond the atom? Quarks? and beyond quarks? we don't know, but we suppose another entity, doing what? It becomes more annoying ...
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by Janic » 06/03/13, 08:19

sen no sen wrote:Absolutely.
Still it would be necessary to agree on what materialism is.

Definition of materialism according to Larousse: "Philosophical doctrine which affirms the primacy of matter over spirit".

This is where it gets complicated.
It seems to me that it is a concept that is aging badly.
And it's a pretty western concept.
In reality if we study consciousness, we realize that it is an emerging phenomenon of a set of interactions in the brain.
Its interactions are electro-chemical.
It is therefore not a palpable object, but a virtual representation.
Its support: particles. What are they made of? On atoms.
Who has it beyond the atom? Quarks? and beyond quarks? we don't know, but we suppose another entity, doing what? It becomes more annoying ...

You have just described what is implied by materialism opposed to spiritualism, by describing each component of organic matter or not, a bit like one can describe by the menu the thread to cut butter, in its dimension, its composition, its resistance, so the how and then it stops there: it is the word end. Spirituality is to give the desired meaning to this product, in other words the why. However the why is not registered in this matter since it depends on the entity which conceived then carried out this wire to cut the butter and thus gave him a concrete use, very material! So matter for matter is devoid of meaning and even if the how of things is useful and necessary without the why, it is only an inert, useless object.
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by Christophe » 21/05/13, 18:36

In the genre, the mystery of the brain: http://freshadda.com/images_adda/illusi ... nflict.php

Do you use your left or right brain?

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If you see this lady turning clockwise, you are using your Right Brain.

If you see it counterclockwise, you are using Left Brain.


See if you can make her go one way and then the other by shifting the brains current.
BOTH DIRECTIONS CAN BE SEEN ... Try tilting your head side to side or think with the other side of the brain using math, fantasy, feelings and words to shift your brain current.

Experimentation has shown that the two different sides,
or hemispheres, of the brain are responsible for different manners of thinking.
The following table illustrates the differences between left-brain and right-brain thinking:

LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses logic
detail oriented
facts-rule
words and language
present and past
math and science
can understand
knowing
acknowledgments
order / pattern perception
knows object name
reality based
form strategies
practical
safe

RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses feeling
"big picture" oriented
imagination rules
symbols and pictures
present and future
philosophy & religion
can "get it" (ie meaning)
believes
appreciate
spatial perception
knows object function
fantasy-based
present possibilities
impetuous
risk taking


Not yet succeeded in making it "turn in the opposite direction ... : Cheesy:
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by sen-no-sen » 21/05/13, 18:46

I can see it spinning in both directions ... is it serious Doc?
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by Christophe » 21/05/13, 18:49

No it's good it's that you use your 2 brains ... I can't do it yet lol!

How did you do to reverse?
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by sen-no-sen » 21/05/13, 18:54

Christophe wrote:No it's good it's that you use your 2 brains ... I can't do it yet lol!

How did you do to reverse?


Well I admit I am a cheater, I know this exercise for years ... and then I am left-handed, it helps!

To facilitate the reversal, focus on the reflection at the foot of the ballerina.
Otherwise there are exercises to "balance" your hemispheres.
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by Christophe » 21/05/13, 18:57

Ok, I'm trying but it doesn't want to lol ... er sex what side of the brain ??

Pkoi a naked woman too? It must influence!

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by sen-no-sen » 21/05/13, 19:04

Christophe wrote:Ok, I'm trying but it doesn't want to lol ... er sex what side of the brain ??

Pkoi a naked woman too? It must influence!

: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:


Sex is rather the paleo-cortex that!
Neither right nor left but down! : Mrgreen:
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by sen-no-sen » 21/05/13, 19:12

Another example of bizarre perception:

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So gray or gray? (A and B are identical colors).
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