The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives

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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by izentrop » 30/05/17, 17:12

Christophe wrote: homeopathy is not over the counter ...
Yes Yes !
The active ingredient is practically non-existent. Only sugar and the placebo effect remain. http://www.bon-coin-sante.com/blog-sant ... meopathie/ and given the quantities consumed, there is no risk of hyperglycemia. : Wink:

Moreover, in the United States, the words "There is no scientific proof that this product works" must appear on the packaging and now consumer associations can sue "big pharma homeo" to use the terms. from Janic See my previous post.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by Christophe » 30/05/17, 18:23

Ah? However, I remember a lot of homeopathic prescriptions during my adolescence ... well, it dates from 20 years ...

So do you think 100% of homeopathic medicines are over the counter?
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by Janic » 30/05/17, 18:50

As for the Parisian woman who takes offense at what the Tibetans eat .... Well yes ... Typical Parisian behavior .... The kind (big shot) of those who came on vacation in my native Berry ....

You should first find out about the Parisian in question! In the letters she writes to her husband, she describes her journey to reach a Tibetan place forbidden to foreigners and even more to women (which many men would not have had the courage to follow) and under the conditions she mentions who put his life in danger every day from being attacked by looters, by the cold, by hunger. Nothing of a small fragile and delicate Parisian. So if this puts the revulse, the reasons are not his delicacy of "Parisian".


Christophe wrote: homeopathy is not over the counter ...

This is half true and false! In fact, current homeopathic products are sold over the counter in our pharmacies, but legislation (under the usual pressure from A lobbies) has reduced (and therefore prohibited sales in France) a certain number of H specialties. these latter banned, they must be brought from other countries where they are authorized.

The active ingredient is practically non-existent. Only sugar and the placebo effect remain. http://www.bon-coin-sante.com/blog-sant ... meopathy / and given the quantities consumed, there is no risk of hyperglycemia.

Another stupidity, but let's do it! Read better this article which ends thus (I neither credit it nor discredit it is just a quotation)
Let us repeat the figures used by the medical profession itself:
80% of illnesses are of psychosomatic origin. So if the easy way out is to spend € 1,80 to treat your soul and at the same time your body, it's still better than giving € 30 or € 50 to drug your body… It’s not your notice ?!

Indeed why take drugs unnecessarily when a simple placebo would suffice?

Moreover, in the United States, the words "There is no scientific evidence that this product works" must appear on packaging

Once again, you take your desires for reality and this point has been seen and reviewed. It is not the United States which claims it, but a private organization, the FTC (so it is not the state itself), which only requests SINCE IT CANNOT IMPOSE ANYTHING and this request must first be approved by the FDA, which is not granted to date.
And after that, would you like to be taken seriously by spreading false and distorted information by yourself?
and now consumer associations can sue "big pharma homeo" to use Janic's words. See my previous post.

As usual of the big anything! Read at least the article you are quoting.
This only concerns Canada and for ONE product and only one supplier, not on the therapeutic set itself.
For the article cited by that choose:
Homeopathy, Class action authorized in Quebec
The purpose of this article is not to hurt or upset users of homeopathic treatments who are often concerned with nature and truth. It is still necessary to remind them of some of these truths, namely that:
To market a homeopathic medicine in France, it is not necessary to justify its content but only its method of manufacture: the famous Hahneman dilution. No official body (and no consumer association) controls what the granules you swallow really contain…

This is partially correct, but no allopathic medicine is controlled either. As for the official body, it imposes a minimum dilution of 10.000, but does not impose anything allo, at most not to immediately kill its consumers. : Evil:
• The pharmaceutical industry does not do philanthropy, but trade. Her interest is that you gobble up what she sells you. Without asking you any questions. And there is nothing to suggest that the companies that manufacture homeopathic medicines are different from the others.
All right ! no industry is philanthropic, but A pushes the plug very far with exorbitant costs for certain treatments, prices not justified http://www.medecinsdumonde.org/fr/actua ... édicaments,
which is not the case in H.
In addition, France is hesitant to question homeopathic treatments, since Boiron, the leading manufacturer in the world, employs thousands of people. Suddenly, despite the doubts, they are still reimbursed by Social Security up to 35%.
Doubtful argument!
• In the same way, moreover, that many other conventional drugs ineffective therefore useless.
and even dangerous for health.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by pedrodelavega » 30/05/17, 19:21

Christophe wrote:Ah? However, I remember a lot of homeopathic prescriptions during my adolescence ... well, it dates from 20 years ...
Having a prescription does not mean that the medication is not over the counter.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by pedrodelavega » 30/05/17, 19:38

Janic wrote:Indeed why take drugs unnecessarily when a simple placebo would suffice?
Homeopathy is therefore a simple placebo.

Janic wrote:
Moreover, in the United States, the words "There is no scientific evidence that this product works" must appear on packaging
Once again, you take your desires for reality and this point has been seen and reviewed. It is not the United States which claims it, but a private organization, the FTC (so it is not the state itself), which only requests SINCE IT CANNOT IMPOSE ANYTHING and this request must first be approved by the FDA, which is not granted to date.
All articles confirm what Izentrop says:
http://www.themindexplorer.net/archives ... ntroverse/
As for the United States, a law entered into force in September 2016 obliges manufacturers to mention on homeopathic products that their effectiveness has not been proven. Finally, a group of researchers has simply asked the scientific authorities to no longer grant funding for research on homeopathy. After more than 50 years of studies without results, it is no longer worth looking for any evidence, the funds must now be spent on more useful areas.

https://www.consoglobe.com/efficacite-h ... ifiques-cg
The US has gone even further. Since 2016, they oblige homeopathic medicines to display on their label the following mention: “there is no scientific proof that this product is effective, the claims of this product are based on the theory of homeopathy formulated in the XNUMXth century, which is not recognized as valid by most modern medical experts ”
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by Christophe » 30/05/17, 19:48

pedrodelavega wrote:
Christophe wrote:Ah? However, I remember a lot of homeopathic prescriptions during my adolescence ... well, it dates from 20 years ...
Having a prescription does not mean that the medication is not over the counter.


Yes, hence my confusion, mea culpa ...
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by Janic » 30/05/17, 20:19

janic wrote: Indeed why take drugs unnecessarily when a simple placebo would suffice?

Homeopathy is therefore a simple placebo.

You have to go back to school to do a text analysis in context. The article says: 80% of illnesses are of psychosomatic origin. So if the easy way out is to spend € 1,80 to treat your soul and at the same time your body, it's still better than giving € 30 or € 50 to drug your body… It’s not your notice? This 80% concerns ALL patients and therefore treated mainly with A, not H. Clearly, according to your mode of interpretation: allopathy is only a simple placebo
Janic wrote:
Moreover, in the United States, the words "There is no scientific proof that this product works" must appear on the packaging.
Once again, you take your desires for reality and this point has been seen and reviewed. It is not the United States which claims it, but a private organization, the FTC (therefore it is not the State itself), which asks only SINCE IT CANNOT TAKE ANYTHING and this request must first be approved by the FDA, which is not granted to date.
All articles confirm what Izentrop says:

It's weird we do not find (at least I have found nothing) on ​​this law in question announced by the article, it is even the only one to do so. But if you can find this law, I am interested and in this case, if he confirms it, I correct my statement.
At most we find: http://sante.lefigaro.fr/article/aux-us ... as-prouvee
No scientific evidence
Unable to present scientific studies, homeopathic medicines sold across the Atlantic will henceforth, indicates a note published on November 15, state very clearly on their labels: "1) that there is no scientific proof of the effectiveness of this product; 2) that the claims for this product are based solely on theories dating back to the 1700s, which are not accepted by most current medical experts. ” What significantly reduce the effectiveness of the placebo effect, the only real mode of action of homeopathy according to its opponents ... Manufacturers who do not comply with these new rules will be prosecuted for false advertising, specifies the administration American.

and no way to find this note in question and the official approval by the State of this claimed taxation.
However Izentrop, he is not alone, has a tendency to put the cart before the horse

NB: do not confuse OUR fraud prevention service which is a state body run by civil servants
whereas the American FTC is only a private agency, without decision-making power and even less able to impose on the State any internal decision.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by pedrodelavega » 30/05/17, 20:44

Janic wrote:NB: do not confuse OUR fraud prevention service which is a state body run by civil servants
whereas the American FTC is only a private agency, without decision-making power and even less able to impose on the State any internal decision.
It's you who is saying it
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by Janic » 31/05/17, 07:04

Janic wrote:
NB: do not confuse OUR fraud prevention service which is a state body run by civil servants
whereas the American FTC is only a private agency, without decision-making power and even less able to impose on the State any internal decision.

It's you who is saying it
If it were me, it would have no more value than the cited articles which are careful not to give verifiable sources.
However, this subject has already been seen and reviewed with official documents from the American government and its supporting legislation, it is enough to refer to it.
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Re: The dangers of homeopathy and food alternatives




by Janic » 31/05/17, 13:15

eclectron hello
By cons I am not for supplementation with B12 (except pathological pb) because in this case it is going against nature.
you indicate, earlier, take protein products containing B12. However, only animal products are supposed to contain naturally (no longer in industrial farming where all their food is artificially supplemented automatically.) You therefore consume a supplemented product without knowing it. : Cry:
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