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by Janic » 17/07/18, 16:18

and with a little delay
The anti-vaccines are victims of a cognitive bias, it is the science which says it

in still the same serenade and its confusions. There is no anti-vaccine, it is only a hype invented by the labs to sow confusion in gullible minds.
first: All pseudo "anti-vaccines" are FOR the right of conscience, too, when others want to be vaccinated. Is there such a great tolerance in the ranks of those who are determined to poison the bodies of our babies?
second: this way of claiming exclusivity from science is only pride because in no field is there such a pretension, except in totalitarian systems like western allopathic medicine, as you see it. conceived!.
Tertio: A study is no more truth than a swallow does the spring.
nevertheless it remains interesting, just replace anti-vaccines with pro-vaccines and the result is the same
. Individuals who lack knowledge of vaccines are infinitely more numerous among those who stupidly submit to the dogmas of the labs, via the conventional medical profession.
so we can also say " This overconfidence makes pro-vaccine suspicious compared to professionals, whistleblowers, in the sector. »

. "This study done on 1.310 adults demonstrated that 34% of the sample felt more knowledgeable than scientists about the possible causes of autism. This figure reaches 36% for those who think they know more than doctors. "
Same confusion. There are no doctors but doctors, most of whom know no more than their clients on the subject, just repeating, foolishly, what the labs, via the university, told them and that without any verification on the ground of the veracity of the dogma in question. So it is true that parents affected by serious side effects, end up getting informed and know more about the subject than doctors and even supposed specialists in question.
Of course, the discourse will be different, as it may be that of a politician with an orientation towards others, of their opponents.
But the medical profession is not unanimous on the supposed benefits of forced vaccinations or not. This dissent, with all its nuances, is no less scientific than the provaccin's speeches, sorry for the labs

then: " Matt Motta's team demonstrates that the least knowledgeable are those who have the highest degree of trust and are most likely to support inexperienced people, such as celebrities. »
It's quite realistic. Doctors are usually the least informed about the side effects of vaccines or worse, fiercely deny them, for fear of the Order of Doctors, at the boots of the labs. But their confidence is shaken when they dare, finally, to inquire.
And this one is the best: ". For example, according to Dr. Peter Hotezn, Dean of the Baylor School of Medicine: "A social opposition movement to vaccination has grown in the United States in recent years. Following the latter, there has been an increase in measles epidemics».
Typical example of bad faith or worse of lies. The outbreaks of measles are due to increasingly early vaccinations that move this disease from a particular period of childhood, to the others, which has been observed for centuries by all parents and doctors and described as mild illness (Even today even in the official medical literature) These vaccines too early have allowed the development of this pathology to other areas of life such as adults, usually protected by measles they have made as a child and that Vaccination distorts because no vaccine protects for life, unlike the wild virus.

So as usual, it's skull stuffing, under the guise of pseudo scientists who want to see only the side stack of the room and refuse to examine his side face.



http://www.slate.fr/story/164543/effet- ... ti-vaccines
In a study conducted by the University of Pennsylvania Public Policy Center, postdoctoral researcher Matt Motta states that individuals "not very sensitive to autism" and who lack knowledge of basic facts are more likely to believe that they have more knowledge than the experts. This overconfidence makes anti-vaccine suspicious compared to professionals in the sector. This study conducted on 1.310 adults demonstrated that 34% of the sample felt more knowledgeable than scientists about the possible causes of autism. This figure reaches 36% for those who think they know more than doctors.

Matt Motta's team demonstrates that the least knowledgeable are those who have the highest degree of trust and are most likely to support inexperienced people, such as celebrities.

To think that the anti-vaccine movement does not represent much is a mistake. The consequences of this attitude are real: this anti-vaccine minority grows visibly and is more inclined to contract diseases for which it refuses to be vaccinated. For example, according to Dr. Peter Hotezn, Dean of the Baylor School of Medicine: "A social opposition movement to vaccination has grown in the United States in recent years. As a result of this, there has been an increase in measles outbreaks.

and blah blah blah, as usual!
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by Janic » 19/07/18, 14:37

Two children die in Samoa within minutes of receiving MMR vaccine

The Prime Minister of Samoa talks about the deaths of these two children and talks about his own experience with his grandson


Tuilaepa Lupesoliai Neioti Aiono Sailele Maliegaoi, Prime Minister of Samoa

"As a father and grandfather, I can understand the grief caused in these families by the loss of their child. I also, several years ago, and in similar circumstances, nearly lost my grandson. But by the grace of God, he was able to survive. However, he will never be the same child because he does not know how to talk anymore. Tuilaepa Lupesoliai Neioti Aiono Sailele Maliegaoi, Prime Minister of Samoa. (reported by JB Handley)



Press release of the Australian Vaccination-Skeptics Network (AVN)

July 9, 2018

After the deaths of these two children, the Ministry of Health ordered the seizure of all MMR vaccines and ordered an immediate investigation.

Two children died in the minutes following measles, mumps and rubella vaccination in the villages of Safatou and Sasina in Samoa. The deaths occurred on July 6 2018.

The first child's family told reporters that their granddaughter, Lannacallystah Samuelu, died in the 3 minutes after the nurse administered the vaccine.









The family of another child, Lameko Siu, one year old, who learned of Lannacallystah's death two hours earlier, pushed the mother to refuse vaccination for her son lest he be subjected to a spell. similar.

Ignoring the wishes of this family, the hospital nurse administered the vaccine. This child died within a minute.

The vaccines were seized in the country and a survey was immediately ordered.

This tragedy highlights the real risks that vaccinations can have for children and adults.

Tasha David, President of AVN and of Samoan origin, is horrified by this situation:

"It is well written in the medical literature that indigenous communities can be much more vulnerable to the damage caused by vaccinations. The health of six of my eight children has been damaged, and my family's situation is not uncommon! Yet the Australian government wants to force us to put our children at risk, just as the hospital in Samoa has harmed these two poor children.

We sincerely hope that the investigation will be honest, will proceed quickly and that justice will prevail. AVN is very concerned about the health of children and their families. All we ask is to be able to exercise our own informed choices about health and that these rights are respected. "

Breaking News: Two children die in Samoa minutes after MMR Vaccination (AVN, 09.07.2018

Source: Australian Vaccination Network

Contrary to the peremptory remarks of Professor Lévy who dared to say on television that "there is no child death related to vaccinations", in reality it is ALL FALSE. And this is so much the case that a Canadian official program (in Quebec) includes death compensation including funeral expenses. But these vaccines of the same composition are also injected on the other side of the Atlantic where a particular form of negationism leads to sadly denying the same possibility of death and all the handicaps that are inextricably linked to the practice of vaccination ... This denial surreal is therefore untenable, very clearly. When deaths occur, in patients immunocompromised most often, and they are linked to measles, we are entitled to a huge hype but it is once again a double standard because deaths and disabilities Serious children after these vaccines "saviors", they are systematically classified as "coincidences", "unfortunate coincidences". How surprising that this state of affairs causes indignation and growing discomfort ... Vaccine promoters would do well, on the one hand, to change in depth the evaluation criteria of vaccines and secondly to try (rather than to impose indiscriminately all vaccination with its own risks) to update the individual risk factors for complications
http://initiativecitoyenne.be/


See as well:

Effects of the MMR vaccine: Parents in distress throw a bottle at the sea

Benefits / risks of the MMR vaccine: it's up to YOU!

Vaccines have destroyed their children: parents' video testimonials

The MM-RVAXPro file on the Mesvaccins.net site, which reports at "an undetermined frequency" several serious neurological complications, some of which may be irreversible (neuritis, polyneuropathy, encephalitis, Guillain-Barré etc ...)
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.




by izentrop » 19/07/18, 17:56

Two children who died after being vaccinated in Samoa are believed to have had a rare life-threatening immunodeficiency disorder.
Let's wait for the results of the investigation before concluding : Lol:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pac ... ccinations
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by Janic » 19/07/18, 18:17

Two children who died after being vaccinated in Samoa are believed to have had a rare life-threatening immunodeficiency disorder.
Let's wait for the results of the investigation before concluding : Lol:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pac ... ccinations
The survey will only see the link between MMR vaccine and child mortality. But if it happens as in France, the case will be forgotten unless the parents seize justice.
https://www.infovaccinsfrance.org/temoi ... s-parents/
this site currently lists 42.000, at the latest news, and the number is continually increasing.
testimonials from parents


TESTIMONY OF STACY PARENTS:



Had we been properly informed, we would have personally chosen not to vaccinate our binoculars and Stacy may still be alive today.

It's simply because we trusted that we had our binoculars vaccinated at the ONE, in October 2011.

A week later, Stacy died and Lesly continued to suffer significant side effects. In the meantime, we learned about and discovered an opaque world where misinformation and conflicts of interest reign supreme. We have also seen many other testimonies from parents of child victims, many of whom died in similar circumstances, such as Nova Ledantec (in France).

As we have unfortunately seen, these serious side effects are most often called "coincidences" and vaccines routinely bleached.

But how many other parents in our case did not have the courage or the strength to take legal action that could have been talked about? It must be said that this kind of procedure requires a good dose of determination, as evidenced by the autopsy refusal that we are confronted with and whereas a Belgian law of 2003 imposes to realize it for any unexpected death of child of less than 18 months! All this shows the very sensitive nature of this type of dossier and tends to show that the risks of vaccines are greatly underestimated and therefore poorly evaluated. For example, it must be known, as several scientific studies have shown, that vaccines can weaken the immune system, making the person much more receptive and sensitive to all kinds of opportunistic infections that can be fatal.

In these circumstances, we believe that it is totally illegitimate and irresponsible to impose potentially risky vaccines on children who have not asked for anything.

This is the meaning of our efforts since 4, claiming freedom and the right to information that goes hand in hand because without information, there is no real freedom of choice. It is in fact simply claiming the application of this law of 2002 on the rights of patients who visibly, hardly apply in the field of vaccination ...

To conclude, a sentence that perfectly summarizes our approach deserves to be recalled. It comes from an Australian Vaccination Risk Awareness Network: "There are so many doubts, confusions and uncertainties about the risks and benefits of vaccinations that in a democracy based on the right, it is morally, ethically and scientifically impossible to justify the practice of compulsory and systematic vaccinations. "

Raphael and Béatrice Sirjacobs, founders of the facebook group Info Vaccine Prevenar https://www.facebook.com/groups/raphetbea/?fref=ts and a video testimonial:




ANONYMOUS

Hello, I would like to leave my testimony on your Prevenar Vaccine Info group, but I do not want my name to appear.



I would like to say this to those who believe that there are no vaccine-related side effects: Clearly, a few years ago, I was like you. My first child never had a problem with vaccinations, or it was manageable (a small fever shot here and there). For my second child, my husband and I agreed, he had to be vaccinated, but only for mandatory vaccinations (so Infanrix). Except that, our family doctor barely left us the choice and he associated the Infanrix with the Prevenar. My husband, pro vaccine, convinced me. However, the day after his second injection, at 5 months, we noticed a radical change of behavior of our child. We thought that, as for his elder, the effects would subside in a few days. But the more the months passed, the more he became irritable, I would say almost unstable, he slept only a little, was grumpy, whereas before that famous day, it was a very happy baby. We tried everything for months and we recently went to see a recognized pediatrician. The judgment is final: our child has suffered for a year side effects of this combination of vaccines, and we do not know if this is reversible. In any case, we will try everything to improve his daily life. That's it, we still believe that the side effects of vaccines, it only happens to others, that it is rare, we are told everywhere. This is what I said each time one of my children was going to be vaccinated. And then one day, we find that no, it does not happen only to others. And I can tell you that we, the parents, in a case like that, we both blame ourselves, for not having been able to say no, for not having been to inform us more and better about these vaccines before let our child be vaccinated. We are not to be pitied, we are aware of it, because the damage could have been more serious than behavioral disorders. So I would just say to parents, make your decision in conscience, whatever it is, unfortunately, there is no risk zero, never, nowhere, neither in one case, nor in the other. We are not equal before vaccines. But do not let anyone decide for you, whether your child is vaccinated or not, it's your choice anyway it should be, because it's your child and you who will be in the front line if ever something is not going as planned. Thank you for reading me.

Dounia R *

Hello! I am a mother of 5 children. My last, Nina, had a malignant whooping-cough the most serious form of pertussis. My daughter was intubated, put in coma, under morphine, exsanguino-transfusion ... Her vital prognosis was committed 75-80% of deaths.

Before his illness, I was against vaccination. Even though I would have been for, when my daughter had whooping cough she was less than two months old, so still too small to receive the vaccines. But according to the doctors, I only thought of myself and not others because it is a citizen's duty to be vaccinated to protect others.

When the doctors knew that I was against the vaccines, I took full face. In addition to that, I made the choice to give birth at home that does not help. This is worrying information because I am, according to the doctors, a danger for my children.

I already knew about vaccines, and with what happened with my daughter, I did more research. And my position on vaccines has not changed. My daughter is still hospitalized, her vital prognosis is no longer engaged. She comes back from a distance. But before its release the doctors want to vaccinate her, except that I am against! They told me that after what my daughter went through they do not understand my choice not to vaccinate her. They say that I did not understand anything, that the experience with my daughter should have taught me a lesson. That a hospitalized child without a vaccine goes out after being vaccinated. But I reminded them of the Kouchner law, that they did not have to vaccinate my daughter without my consent.

I have vaccinated friends, updated in their reminders, who were close to my family. All but one were positive for whooping cough. According to the site sante gouv.fr on 271 adults having a cough 32% were positive with whooping cough 60% of them are vaccinated!





Suffice to say that it's bad luck if my daughter had a malignant whooping cough. The vaccine does not prevent you from having the disease or passing it on. So, I do not see the value of the vaccine. It's bad luck if my daughter got it, it's life. I just hope the doctors will not vaccinate my daughter in my agreement.

Sofia A * Z *



Hello. I wanted to bring my testimony about vaccinations.
I am a 19 year old young mother. I did not know the risks associated with vaccinations except for a few stories that I read on the internet. I told the doctors about it who were adamant "You must not believe what is written on the internet"! Okay.
I vaccinate my daughter two days ago: Infanrix and Prevenar.
A ball is formed on one of its thighs which is very red and a slight cutaneous reaction; no fever, nothing alarming. The next day I let baby sleep in his room and suddenly I hear strange noises.
I go to her room and find my daughter all blue. Her arms and legs were trembling frantically and the drool coming out of her mouth making foam: my daughter had an epileptic fit. I gave him a heart massage and gave him word of mouth. She regained consciousness and I immediately contacted the emergency room.

They arrive and tell me that after the crisis they can not do anything anymore and that I have to go see the doctor. I did not sleep at night I watched my daughter and this morning at dawn, I went to the doctor. Diagnosis: REACTIONS RELATED TO THE IMMUNIZATION OF THE WATCH. We need this week to meet the epileptologist and my daughter will be followed in a child neurology department.





I thought my daughter was going to die. Finding your child blue and seizure epileptic is not trivial. These vaccines are dangerous !!!! I am now very reluctant to the next vaccinations and will not make any reminders!





Alas, one case among many



Hello,

We would like to tell you about a child who is dear to us, Adrien, 11 months old, who was a lively baby, constantly jumping on his legs, going from one end of the house to the other in his youpala. 8 weeks ago, Adrien had his MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, rubella) Ten days later, he started to be feverish, very dejected. The first diagnosis was: flu condition treated with doliprane (we were in the middle of an influenza epidemic!) Two days later, he started to experience continuous incontinence. Urine was dripping which was mistaken for cystitis and treated with antibiotics for 5 days which failed to contain this so-called cystitis. Most worrying was this state of extreme fatigue. Adrien was no longer standing on his legs, no longer sitting, no longer even had the strength to turn over in his bed. Two consultations in the pediatric hospital service were necessary to arrive, after MRI and lumbar puncture, at the diagnosis of very rare CERVICAL MYELITIS in infants (...) In fact, what was originally taken for influenza and cystitis , 10 days after MMR vaccination, were already the symptoms of this infectious myelitis. From there, hospitalization for 7 days in the pediatric neuro-department of the Timone Hospital in Marseille with high-dose corticosteroid therapy by intravenous route. An electro myogram in the lower limbs did not reveal any underlying disease. Adrien therefore went out for a return home with oral corticosteroid therapy and 30 physiotherapy sessions. Today, despite this treatment, no development; we are close to 5 weeks of paralysis. (...) He was hospitalized again for 48 hours for an immunoglobulin transfusion. Two days after a new MRI was performed: the results today show that there is no more inflammation in the spinal cord and the pediatrician repeated to us that following this episode, he should not have sequelae (the big question now is whether or not he continues to make antibodies that attack his spinal cord ... which would be considered a new episode ...) We have clearly mentioned the causal relationship effect of the MMR vaccine but we were told that "nothing was scientifically proven!" It is also true that when we raised the undesirable effects of growth hormones, the Picks and so on…. People must have had the same answer with the consequences that we all know now !! Adrien, at the age of 2 months, was vaccinated the same day against: PNEUMOCOCCAL INFECTION, HEPATITIS B, TETANOS, POLIO, COQUELUCHE, HAEMOPHILIUS INFLUENZA B, or 7 diseases! We informed the pediatrician of the hospital who received us on March 12, that we were going to make a "patient report" to AFSSAPS as part of pharmacovigilance, by questioning the MMR vaccine. We asked them for the pediatric service to do the same so that the information was brought up, but we felt a clear reluctance. To date, ADRIEN 11 months, is paralyzed. His legs no longer support him, He can no longer get up, he can no longer sit, can no longer turn over in his bed. Only his arms and head are mobile. His intestines function poorly stimulated by laxatives and glycerine suppositories. We thank you for the time taken in reading this email and ask you to believe in the assurance of our distinguished consideration.



http://www.bickel.fr/2012/04/vaccinatio ... -indemnes/

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Hello everyone! I wish you had your opinion. My 6 years old son has had his vaccinations in good standing as of his 2 months and a half. The one with hepatitis B (Infanrix Hexa). As early as the next 2 / 3 weeks, he chained asthmatic bronchitis. Doctor every 10 days with antibiotics, physio sessions respi, he had 3 / 4 months. Horrible. As soon as antibiotic therapy was over, the following days he fell ill again in the same way. He was kept in nanny with other children, including an educated, likely to bring back viruses.

All this circus lasted all winter 2009 / 2010.

Rebelote winter 2010 / 2011, ear infections on otitis always antibiotic treatment on the spot, but falls sick of a new otitis in stride. And this all winter.Rebelotehiver 2011 / 2012, rhino-pharyngitis repetition with same mode of operation. It was at this time that we began to consult homeopaths rather than general practitioners. Homeopathic treatments are moderately effective but what has worked very well is the complementation of vitamin D. However, he still gets sick every 15 days. Since then, my son is still regularly sick with rhino-pharyngitis, sometimes with coughing fits. We do not treat the antibiotics any more, but we give him 2 / 3 solupred days during important crises to appease a cough minimum otherwise it's impressive. Complementation vitamin D and C also works very well in prevention and can space the virus except when it is tired. You understand, my son has a very fragile health.

Now let's talk about my daughter. 1 year and a half, not vaccinated. Has never been to the doctor except for the mandatory visit of the 8 days and 9 months. Colds related to dental flares with dry cough, which disappears spontaneously without medical treatment. Go to nursery ...



I would like to have your opinion, whether it is vaccination that would have significantly influenced the state of my son or if it can come from something else, but what ... Now again I ask myself the question and I wish Have your lights because we have suffered enormously all 3 this situation (although I know it could have been worse).
Thanks for reading me.



Jessica B *



Good evening everyone,



I have been in the band for a while and I read you quite often.
My daughter, now 6 and a half years old, had her first convulsion (30 minutes) the day after this crap deadly cocktail: Infanrix, Prevenar and Rotateq, she was 3 months old ... After it was the descent into hell, violent and prolonged crises, respiratory stops, several comas and resuscitation ... Months of medical wandering and despair ... A rare genetic disease detected, Dravet syndrome. Strangely, my daughter is not the only Dravet to have convulsed from the vaccines. I'm not saying she wouldn't have been sick without it, but deep down inside, I know she would never have experienced what she is still going through today. I think that at worst she would have been a "classic epileptic". I had a perfect pregnancy, a perfect delivery, and until the vaccines, she was developing very well and she was very alert! Our life has become a nightmare after these vaccines! We did not even know all the diseases they contained, we trusted, first baby, a doctor who certifies us to do only the minimum ... We were forced to fight afterwards not to make the reminders , even though she had convulsed! It makes me want to throw up! I don't even know if a doctor has declared anything to the labs regarding side effects ... We must be so many ignored! Today still hard to get through ... Even if we explain, we continue to want to vaccinate her. She had a terrible gastro, hospitalized 2 weeks before a year while vaccinated, she suffered from serious pneumopathies, one of which almost cost her his life between 3 and 4 years ... Pneumococcal pneumonia very hard to treat, recurrent and unexplained while doing the prevenar vaccine. In short, as if all the vaccines had weakened and destroyed it. Today, she has motor, cognitive and language delays, eating disorders, sleep disorders, behavioral disorders, she goes to school very little, with avs, and begins the specialized institute. It is photosensitive. She is sensitive to heat, excitement, fatigue and so on ... Convulsive epileptic fits are shorter but sometimes still violent and especially more numerous, especially at night, she can do up to at 50 while sleeping ... His life, our life is an everyday fight with a sword above our head. She is a strong, cuddly, smiling and full of life little princess, and I keep wondering what life would have been like without this shit!
Today she has a little sister who is turning 2, and despite everything we can hear, she has not received any vaccine to date. When I think about it, terrible thoughts clench my throat and take my breath away ... My husband and I are "vaccinated", we have learned the lesson well!

Angelique E *

Hello, I am a mother of 3 boys whose first two vaccinated without knowing. No doctor has ever told me about side effects. For my third, born in April 2013, I started to ask questions about vaccination and I also tried to talk to my doctor but refused to tell me more by saying that if I do not vaccinate, my child would be very sick.

At the time, I was scared and then I vaccinated my 3 month old baby (Infanrix quinta and prevenar13) my doc told me: "yes, yes, it's mandatory" While no, to my biggest regret .. He had GERD since birth and it soared with this first series of vaccines. I revaccinated E. at 6 and a half months and at the same time the diversification was going very badly and baby who was crying +++!

The respiratory problems started with bronchiolitis and asthma. In December 2013, 1 month and a half after his vaccinations, the boy began to vomit violent. The doctor diagnosed a gastroenteritis, normal in winter, except that it lasted 21 days and that my child sometimes vomited up to 30x in 24h. He did 2 stays in pediatrics. And during the second stay, she is diagnosed with an allergy to milk protein. I was nursing my son and I myself received a vaccine against hepatitis b, which was mandatory for my future studies.

As of February, the child has developed some fifteen allergies, some of which may put him in danger. He also has an intestinal problem during diagnosis.

Of course when I say that it is the fault of the vaccine, I am dismissed and refuse to follow my son. Today, we are lost. The little one has no solid food (just applesauce and a little bread) he will have 18 months and I do not know the rest.

Of course, now I am against vaccination. I am even angry with doctors who chain vaccines without explanation. Which, even, make you feel guilty! I myself have become sick in the intestines since this damn vaccine, but the same: "vaccines are 100% safe so it is not possible!"



It's nothing, but nothing with others nothing can do anything!



Clarisse C *



Hello,

I am coming here to try and summarize our experience with vaccines as quickly as possible. My eldest is under-vaccinated (and never sick, she has 11 years and has not seen a doctor since her chickenpox in 2009 ...) The youngest of them has not been vaccinated until its 11 months , a choice I made because we lived in the countryside and it was not in community. Never sick in 11 months, a little runny nose when he was teething, but not a gastro or otitis, always smiling, baby happiness with a super psycho-motor development very flattering for parents blooming! At 11 months, under the pressure of the medical profession, it is finally vaccinated but I did not react too much when we imposed prevenar + pentavac double injection the same day ...



Fever, induration, loss of appetite, grumpy, sleepy, over several days.
He had his first big otitis / laryngitis in the aftermath, so consultation and observation: break in the height-weight curve. The doctor on call prescribed a blood test "just to be sure". Appraisal: hyper-eosinophilia, I'll skip the details, but I was referred directly to the infectious department of the Trousseau hospital in Paris, then to oncology. Luckily (?) They found nothing, no leukemia, no heart problem, kidney or infection or allergy .... And he chained gastro / otitis / bronchitis for months, without respite. On the other hand, they never wanted to assimilate the vaccine factor to this metabolic change (inevitably, they see children dying of whooping cough in their departments, I can understand eh ...) but they told me all the same that we could no longer vaccinate my son at this time. It takes a special protocol for him. Another doctor (homeo) clearly specified to me that my son was in danger from vaccination .... Will I have to home school so that I do not have to vaccinate him? Who can I turn to to have an attentive ear to my experience? Thank you for reading me, and thank you in advance for your advice. (I just want to point out that the Trousseau Hospital is a GREAT hospital, with great doctors, really ... no one is wrong in my words, a specific case does not make the whole thing, I am worried about about my son and left the hospital consultations on my own because I want other opinions and not spend hours waiting with a "at risk" child in an environment ... at risk! ...)

Elo D *





Not long ago I was talking with my grandmother, aged 80, about my ideas about vaccines and my worry about not having any comprehensive doc and she came to talk to me about her sister-in-law who He had had the smallpox vaccine made to his 1 year-old girl who died just a few days later ... She also told me about other cases of children being called dead suddenly but even -mere has serious doubts about these sudden and unexplained infant deaths!

Jocelyne B *





Here is my testimony. It doesn't date from today but whatever. I was 20 years old. I was working at the time in a hospital in the 14th arrondissement of Paris. HB vaccination (among others) is mandatory in hospitals, we were the first guinea pigs between 1985 and 1995 on three generations of HB vaccines (Hévac B, Génévac, Engerix B) with booster every 5 years. No serology done before because it would cost too much that they told us! Before vaccination: good health. At the end of the second vaccination (Genevac) "There and back" to the emergency room for neuromuscular disorders. Battery of exams: Nothing found. Diagnosis: of "psychological" origin according to them! Curiously, I was not the only one to scroll for the same symptoms in the emergency hall ... 3rd injection: I report the concern to occupational medicine. She takes note without really understanding the problem but as I was not the only one, she signals to PASTEUR who answers that it has nothing to do with the vaccine! She reports to the hospital's CHS, but nothing is done! Vaccinate anyway! In the meantime, I learn that colleagues at the hospital have had MS after their vaccinations! 28 years LATER ... I find myself not being able to walk for 3 weeks: parasthesis in the lower back and left leg. 2 MRI, 1 scanner: Nothing found! I went to the Henri Mondor hospital and there the doctor told me that it could be macrophage myofasciitis (MAM) due to the vaccines and that a biopsy would have to be done to be sure. I am talking about it to a homeopathic doctor friend who has studied this known problem and who has written a book on "Hepatitis B as it has not been presented to you" (Dr Marie-Hélène GROUSSAC) and there I have understood how serious it all was! Vaccines attack the immune system, it's a real bomb ... So protect yourself !!! So much for my testimony.



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In my close family, I have 4 doctors, 2 pharmacists and myself and my spouse are researchers (bac + 13 already !!) and we are still learning every day! The family medical side is of course convinced of the usefulness of the vaccines, and we had no reason to doubt their judgment. They are well placed to know.

We vaccinated our baby 2 and 6 months and he had serious post-vaccination reactions: regression on all levels: neurological, interaction, affection, language, digestive system, allergies .. and I pass you the details because the list is long. We fell from a very high level. The first reaction was to say, well, bad luck, our son must have been weaker, the vaccines must still be safe as a rule. Due to the big worries of our child, and from our training, we began to dig the subject day and night, Sunday and holidays, during the naps of the small .... we were on the verge of depression all the same because no doctor could help our child, nobody knew what he had and none took into account the hypothesis of a post-vaccination disorder. In seeking solutions to post-vaccination accidents, we realized that no one really knows why some people react badly to vaccines and in fact nobody understands much about the immune system (I have a university degree in physics biomedical and biochemical, to say that I touched immunity and health too) and that no one (even the vaccine producers) knows how it is that vaccines really work or not ...

Imagine my shock. Then I found myself reading many reports: WHO, INVS, public health, doctors, researchers, marketing studies, efficiency, tests etc ..; hoping to find at least one vaccine that I will consider can be helpful! I did not find any! I was convinced that vaccines had saved the world .. I started reading everything I found on the subject in a perfectly scientific and objective, and I did not find anything as a scientific basis that would have could convince me that for a well-nourished and surrounded / beloved child, in our very rich countries, the vaccine is necessary! (...) I have never believed anyone before I fly over free research on the subject. Do your own research (...). In this group, I have tried as much as possible to publish studies, theses and very objective reports, whose authors are neither for nor against vaccines but whose research shows the inconsistencies of their practices.

The findings are obvious to us! You will see, in training the doctors to discuss on this subject, the flaws of their reasonings (I learned the ridiculous number of hours spent on the subject, the source of their knowledge / beliefs, the very empirical reasoning and not really scientific neither objective). And it's for everyone the same. This is the majority of health professionals (we have to be around more than fifty following hospitalizations and visits of the small).

However, I must not believe that I spit on this profession! Far from me! I met great doctors on this trip and they gave me back some of the trust I lost, but I also became convinced that only an informed parent can take the health of his child in hand.



Before the first vaccines at 2 months, my son was calm, ahead for his age, super good sleeper, very good eater, very cuddly, perfect development (social smiles at 3 and a half weeks, good eye contact, responds when you call his name) etc. After the vaccines at 2 months, he refused the breast (he was exclusively breastfed), developed eczema, infections here and there, refusal to drink, trouble sleeping (8-10 awakenings per night ), the sucking was difficult afterwards ... there is an obvious break in her weight after the 2 month vaccinations. Obviously, ill-informed parents that we were, we never made the connection at the time. Suddenly at 6 months the second booster (still fatal combination infanrix hexa + prevenar 13): jet vomiting which lasted 6 months, chronic diarrhea, reflux, eczema and allergies, complete refusal to eat and drink to the point where he almost failed receive a feeding probe !!!!! Intestinal infection, hypertonicity, hyperactivity, behavioral disturbances, loss of sustained eye contact, refusal of contact, refusal to be held, loss of babbling and the word mom acquired around 5 and a half months, persistent screaming, screaming every night, anxiety , irritability, hypertonicity and legs / hands that move constantly, no longer respond when called (or very, very, very difficult), break in the waist curve! It's quite a coincidence because it happens twice! We barely managed to recover around 2 months from the terrible effects of the first injections, and hop ... back to the antipodes. During this time: 5 long-term hospitalizations, tests after tests, and NOTHING! no anomaly found, no disease, no explanation, no treatment, no solution apart ... "it will pass"! As for the refusal to eat / drink (loss of the feeling of hunger, with a child who regularly spends 6-20 hours without putting anything in the mouth): "it will also work with diversification, etc."!

BLEUEEN



I want to speak on behalf of my daughter as if she was speaking because I make her live through me.



"I am Bleuenn, I was born on April 17th, 2010 it was hot that day at 00:20 am. Mum is proud because I was born on the same day as my maternal grandfather. I weigh 3kg100 and measure 50 cm in very good health and a very pleasant arrival as mom says. After a long reflection my name is Bleuenn which means "little white flower". I am very dark-haired with a mat complexion and very beautiful. The whole family is proud of me, I am the 4th daughter of the family and the last because I arrived very late after my 3 sisters Laurie who was 19 years old Manon 16 years old and Louann 10 years old so I am pampered and pampered.

I grow up in good health.



Monthly visits to the pediatrician.



I gain weight and I grow like a mushroom.

And the vaccines arrive. Mom is trusting ... visit + bites at 2 Prevenar month, at 4 Prevenar month.



Then the 13 / 07 / 2011 reminder Prevenar 13 and Meningitec C at the same time the same day.



Like all children I have small colds and I have otitis but nothing else.



And here I grow and grow again I 3 years in April 2013 this will be my last birthday but nobody knows it yet.

And this famous day of Thursday 29 January 2014 after a morning of school I take a nap at home. I'm fine I get up to 15H and after I go shopping with mom.

As usual I'm crazy but what mom finds amazing return in the car at 18h is that I fall asleep at once.

We go home and I ask a lot to drink.

Mom finds me hot, take my temperature. It is 18h30 and I have 40 ° 5. So she calls the doctor who does not answer and insists until 19h in vain, it does not answer. So mom gives me doliprane the temperature goes down but very little.

Mom calls the 15 so appointment with doctor on call at 22h.

I do not complain but I am tired and very thirsty.

The weather is long, too long ....

Mom says it's probably the flu but here in Brittany in January 2014 no flu like this year.



My temperature goes back more than 40 °.



We arrive at the doctor on duty after oscultation he states influenza but mom told him it's impossible to have an influenza state while I'm vaccinated against the flu I would have never made such a strong flu.

And what mom found bizzare is that I had trouble walking and my extremities were frozen, as anesthetized and I was walking on tiptoe but the doctor said it is the pain of the flu.

So we come back.

Pharmacy advil + doliprane that's it.



He is 22h45.

I do not want to eat just sleep and drink and mom sleeps all night with me and that's when it started.



We are the 30 January 3H morning.

I vomit by jets and I have diarrhea and mom says no it's not the flu but the gastro.

As I have long blond hair, mom makes me take a bath because I have vomit in my hair.



He is 3h45.

Advil 40 ° 1 temperature I drink and I fall asleep



6h

I revived by jets and diarrhea and mom relucts me and realizes that I have a task on my hip, it is violet darker like wine, no more than 3 cm long.



I have more than 40 °, mom recalls the 15



he is 6h45.

She explains and they tell her that they are coming right away.

I'm crying, I'm not the same, I'm restless but the light does not hurt but I do not know how to sit up, lying down I can not do it anymore, no control of my body I can not control myself anymore .

Samu is coming. Mom does not understand, we are given masks and infusion first powerful dose of antibiotics and I go to pediatric emergencies with mom.

Supported quickly but too much discussion in the hall without understanding their terms, I suffer I cry.

No lumbar puncture, impossible because the antibiotic administered at home would have prevented to know what I have.



He is 7h45

I do not know how to put myself I am exhausted and I burst of thirst I suck compresses of water that the caregiver gives to mother but she says that it is necessary to give me little; I beg my mother I'm so thirsty I have white slime around my mouth Mom is very marked by my suffering and thirst and especially I say a sentence to mom who I know it makes her cry every day.



- << Mom I was mean >>

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You must know that I have 3 years and 9 months but I express myself as an adult.

Time is running, it's long.

Mom sees several pediatricians she does not know who by the way.



12 p.m.

We decide to transfer to Brest by helicopter.

Mom does not have the right to come so it will be 2h road for her under heavy rain and wind in the car.

I get in the elevator with doctor and resuscitator and I close my eyes tired and mom kisses me.

I arrive in Brest knowing that the hospital of Lorient had said they suspected meningitis without knowing what kind (which germ involved)

Mom and dad come home and my sisters arrive because one is internal.

Mom makes the road to Brest with my sister Manon 19 years now.

Mom prepared my clothes thinking I would be home and some clothes for her to sleep there with me.

And there, after 2 hours, Mom and Manon arrive and a pediatrician takes care of them.

And here, mom collapses ...

What is purpura? Mom does not know it, first time I hear that word.

Mom cries and says to shut up that I must cure because I am vaccinated !!

It surprises them all and after checking my health record, my mother remembers. More than surprised even!

Mom goes to my room but the details mom will not say it but very shocking: even more tasks, swollen it does not even recognize me in 2 hours she did not see me, I am intubated, etc ... ...........

He is 15h30 the pediatric teacher takes mom aside and asks that daddy and my other 2 sisters come he insists.

Dad's coming with my uncle and aunt. They only arrive at 18h because it is still raining.

I was not in a coma I was anesthetized. The night has been long.

7 tubes are pulled every 2 hours and the pediatrician says I have to spend the first night. So we sleep there. We are given a small room we sleep on chairs except mom who sleeps with me where the nice nurse has installed a makeshift chair to mom because there are so many machines in the room that there is little room.

I spend the night always under anesthesia, stable but with difficulty.



It is 6h of the morning the 1er February.

Always stable and the night nurse says to mother

- << See you tonight, she spent the night, she is solid >>

The hours go by, it is 12h00 the nurse sees mom exhausted and tells her to go take a shower and go to the cafeteria lunch and that if something happens she will call him. So mom listens, shower the sisters too and have breakfast with Dad and 2 from my sisters. Mom gives news to all the family and friends, then mom goes back.

Mom holds my hand and there miracle I moved my thumb Mom is happy and says:

- << "Bleuenn squeezed my finger! >>

and the nurse says

- << yes but there is a little awakening we will have to anesthetize again to put it in deep sleep it must not move >>

Mom regrets to have said but so happy 10 seconds ... so another dose and there after 30 minutes everything goes together

it is almost 16h.First cardiac arrest.

My tension drops, my heart goes up and the pediatrician's massage.

Mom, dad and my sisters see all the boxes are open and it's a black code.

Then my heart goes away.

16 p.m.

it starts again; 2th stop, massage and I come back.

And 16h50 still 3th time and there I am shocked and at 17h20 my heart has accelerated to 294 pulsations per minute ....

Mom looks at my breast jump from a height that marked everyone we saw only that and suddenly this machine fall and fall ....



I went to 17h22.

I only had 3 years and 9 months.

I measured 1m03.

I weighed 17kg.

I loved life, mash, kinders, tinkerbell my blanket and especially poo-cola. "



I publish so that it does not happen anymore, not to other children.

This is the story of his death and I cry every day ...

I spend my time at the cemetery talking to him and giving flowers.

Bleuenn would have had only 5 last Friday ... I feel alone and helpless and now I will explain why. I first wanted to share the story of a girl who died of meningitis for which she was well vaccinated.

My daughter died unfairly! I am an angry mother full of rage because I had no or little concrete explanation on her death!

So I appeal to the minister, I ask for a survey on which the answers are vague.

I appeal to magazines "Maxi", "Closer" and "Public" and the answer after 3 months of waiting and their photographer agreement at home + journalist I learn by mail that for political reasons that the story of our girl will never be published ... !!!

I asked for Bleuenn's medical file; "FATAL VACCINE FAILURE"

here is what is written and still there are other things but just 3 photocopies troubles!

I do research during 1 year when meningitis vaccines are concerned by suspect lots.

I find a little boy in London who has died and yet is vaccinated against meningitis.

I am told for the autopsy of the blood of Bleuenn that one will never know if it is the product of the vaccine Meningitec c or its immune defenses which did not work because one can not analyze the blood on a personee died.

It should be known that in France 118 591 doses were marketed in December 2010 lot 86964E Meningitec C and all lots were sold.

I am informed and it is the ARS who wrote to me that in 2003 2013 2011 2014 is 4 people whose 2 may be the same lot as Bleuenn but no investigation because few people.

I contacted other journalists and shows, but I do not get caught up in scandal.

I participated with the association "Méningite France" and I met pediatricians and Ars at a conference in Morbihan the pediatricians who were present could not answer my 2 questions namely:

- When a purpura is taken in the 3 hours the first antibiotic dose saves; for Bleuenn it was in the 20 mn why the antibiotic did not act and why she died from it? He just shrugged and could not answer me.

- Can we do the Prevenar13 and Meningitec vaccines the same day at the same time? he just told me it was better to wait but that if the doctor did it is that it is possible.

I asked to go to a conference at the Institut Pasteur I was refused because in April 2014 it was the European elections and it was necessary that the story of this little remains taboo, in silence.

Today I am unanswered I have not filed a complaint I do not have a lawyer, in fact I have nothing.

I am lost, I stagnate and I do not understand and I do not know where I am.

THANKS TO THOSE WHO WILL HAVE READ ME AND LISTENED

The mother of Bleuenn
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by Janic » 21/07/18, 12:49

GARDASIL: A legal victory, a historic decision

Federal Court of Canada Decides to Disclose Clinical Trial Data to US Researcher

By Brian Shilhavy, Health Impact News, 19 July 2018

GARDASIL: A legal victory, a historic decision
CBC News, along with the British Medical Journal (BMJ) report that Professor Peter Doshi has won a major legal victory over pharmaceutical companies trying to hide clinical trial data from the public, claiming it is 'confidential agreements' for 5 pharmaceutical products.

Doshi has sued Health Canada for the release of clinical trial data from manufacturers of HPV, Gardasil 9 and Cervarix vaccines, as well as antiviral medicines for influenza, Tamiflu and Relenza .

A federal court judge ordered Health Canada to disclose clinical trial data on the pharmaceutical products listed above, thereby undermining the Canadian government's attempts to keep this information confidential.

As far as I know, this historic decision of Canada has been completely censored in the "dominant" media sponsored by American companies.

All this is part of a brilliant legal strategy of Dr. Doshi and his lawyers, as they had little or no chance of getting this clinical trial data from a court in the United States, where pharmaceutical companies enjoy legal immunity against most lawsuits.

The importance of receiving this data, especially on Merck's Gardasil vaccine, can not be overstated.

As we have reported several times here at Health Impact News, the entire medical approval process for introducing the HPV vaccine into the US market is filled with scandals and cover-ups that have led to health problems and death. many young people, especially young women aged 12 to 26, many of whom can no longer have children, following the vaccine that made them sterile.




"I hope my case will set a precedent and also allow researchers, clinicians, and the public to easily access clinical trial data," said Dr. Doshi in an email sent to CBC News. .

"Regulators should not have a monopoly on assessing the risks and benefits of drugs. Nor should they prevent others from doing the same through confidentiality agreements. "

The ruling of the Federal Court Judge, Dr. Sébastien Grammond, who described Health Canada's position as "unreasonable", was welcomed by other legal experts in Canada, according to CBC News.

"The Court made it very clear that it was in the public interest to be able to access this information so that independent researchers could monitor it. This access to information therefore fundamentally outweighs any interest in protecting commercial interests, "said Matthew Herder, director of the Dalhousie Health Law Institute, University of Halifax.

Herder, who has studied the case closely, said he hoped that this courageous decision would cause researchers, even outside of Canada, to start requesting data on other current drugs on the market. .

Read the Tribunal's decision here.

Dr. Peter Doshi has publicly criticized drug companies and government policies that mislead the public about drug safety by concealing publicly available clinical trial data on drugs and independent researchers.

Dr. Doshi's fame does not come back to him for having, for example, solved the enigma of cancer or for the discovery of a new drug to success, but to have managed to push the biggest pharmaceutical companies of the world to open their so that the potential benefits and harms of these everyday medications can be better understood.

With a group of researchers and activists from all over the world, Dr. Doshi is trying to unearth the data from clinical trials, which are complex studies that last for years and often involve thousands of patients in many countries. these public data.

In the current system, say the activists, it is only meager details of clinical trials that are published in medical journals, often even by authors with financial ties to the companies for which they write the articles. It seems obvious that these data are so inadequate that they are likely to be misleading.

This decision in Canada represents a great victory for Dr. Doshi and should lead to greater transparency in clinical trials of drugs and potentially allow for the prosecution of unethical pharmaceutical companies by commercializing drugs. dangerous products such as the annual influenza vaccine and HPV vaccines (cervical cancer).

Dr Peter Doshi is Associate Editor at BMJ and the News & Views team. In Baltimore, he is also an Assistant Professor of Health Services Research at the University of Maryland (School of Pharmacy).

Source: VaccineImpact
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by Janic » 21/07/18, 14:47

Prevention of cervical cancer in the face of obscurantism
ouarf, ouarf as usual. : Evil:
You should learn to read properly. Once again, it is not a question here of declaring oneself against vaccination, but of having the information that the labs do not want to communicate under the pretext of an industrial secret. You are against obviously! : Evil:
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http://initiativecitoyenne.be/2017/09/j ... braux.html
Japan does not recommend HPV because of the many cases of serious side effects.
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by Janic » 23/07/18, 08:52

reading Roddier, I come across this wording:
This sequence perfectly illustrates how the brain (global or not) works. The beliefs acquired tend to stay as long as possible. Under the pressure of facts (decrease in energy intake), beliefs change gradually, by successive iterations. They do so in order to preserve the acquis as long as possible.
Each modification corresponds to a small restructuring of the global brain (beliefs evolve).
http://www.francois-roddier.fr/?p=235&

What more can be said ?
In a superstitious way, the people have been held hostage by the fear of the disease and the hope of seeing their disappearance definitively. But these populations, long maintained in the ignorance have seen their intellectual level increase over the decades and at the same time their faculties of reflection and no longer submission (even if the great Charles said the French are calves) stupid and disciplined beliefs instilled by institutions a little too dependent on international finance.
Their eyes open more and more and their fear gradually disappears to be replaced by reason, especially after having been victim of these beliefs acquired by imposition by groups intellectually oriented by personal interest or caste.
Then yes, beliefs acquired are shaken by the reality of the ground that reveals what has been permanently hidden. More and more doctors and health professionals are questioning the pasteurian dogma, which is so convenient to perpetuate these beliefs.
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by Janic » 28/07/18, 13:34


Conference: 11 Vaccines, Issues, Decryptions and Truths - Pierre Jean Arduin Doctor in Neuroscience
Comparisons, graphics, etc ...
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