France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

[izentrop]

(Janic you forget the space to put before a link)
finally, a measured discourse on the usefulness of certain vaccines and the uselessness of others, in France and especially the absurdity of any obligation that is counterproductive.

Finally a video about a guy who knows what he's talking about https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoulteven if he is not clear in his remarks, because a little further he would like to include other vaccines in the list. You should listen to it all, it's very interesting what he says.

for some doctors, what medicine does not explain has no basis: homeopathy is an example, and Lyme disease another example of actuality.

For homeopathy is clear, but Lyme disease is well defined, the problem is that it is difficult to diagnose, it is rather recent in France, not all doctors are trained to detect it and she poses the problem of antibiotic abuse.

[Ahmed]

As a child, this operation (tonsillectomy) had been proposed to me by a doctor whereas it was in vogue, as described Janic. Having already had the opportunity to taste this kind of joke, I refused and took it well, because after these few infrequent infectious interludes, I no longer suffered from any pathology of this side. The systematic aspect of certain medical protocols (which, fortunately, can be reformed) does not come from a scientific approach, one must be aware of this.

[Janic]

- on the other hand, there are undeniable medical advances that save lives.
Recently I heard a professor of medicine explained that to make his students aware of the progress of medicine, he asked them the following question:
"Let those who have already had an infection or a serious illness requiring hospitalization raise their arms ...",
then had explained,
"Without current advances in medicine, even 50 years ago, most of those who raised their arms would have died today! ..."

This is the kind of argument that impresses, but only a reductive vision of the problem. Indeed we must already identify the pathology concerned. There is 50 / 60 an almost systematic removal of the vegetations in the children, before one realized that this immune barrier suppressed the infections descended further towards the tonsils and possibly their operation, followed by pulmonary infections at the most fragile.
The same applies to the appendix, which is supposed to be useless until we realize its final antiseptic role. Admittedly, in a certain number of cases, the infection may require certain interventions, for want of something better, or rather, for lack of a lifestyle that reduces or eliminates these anxiety-provoking cases for parents. It is therefore necessary to have a global view, holistically said today, not to stop at its effects, but also and especially to go back to the causes. (One of the main ones happens to be these vaccines over-soliciting an immune system in one direction and neglecting the other risk factors.

Finally a video about a guy who knows what he's talking about https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoulteven if he is not clear in his remarks, because a little further he would like to include other vaccines in the list. You should listen to it all, it's very interesting what he says.

It so happens that I listened to it thoroughly. It is not for obligations imposed right and wrong, without justification other than political, which is not scientific and does not correspond to a reality on the ground.
That he is a supporter of more specific vaccines given the number of pathologies found, it is in fact in its logic, but at the same time it emphasizes the uselessness of others that have become "mandatory".

For some doctors, what medicine does not explain has no basis: homeopathy is an example, and Lyme disease is another example of actuality.

For homeopathy it's clear,

Still a bad read it seems! grelinette wrote:for some doctorsWhat medicine does not explain has no basis.
Clearly, it is not a question of unfoundedness but of the opinion of some doctors who note their inability to explain something and who are then in negation on principle. A negation of principle has never been of a scientific nature for all that! And indeed, the H is denied by unawareness of the subject by a party of untrained doctors; this does not call into question the subject itself but the incompetence of those who have not studied this specialty.

[Janic]

I move the subject evoked on death of bees on this one more adequate:

janic wrote: your article dated 2010, it would be necessary to update you.

Normal, the case goes back to 98. Read the article, he made countless breaches of elementary rules. His study was only about children 11 and the most serious:

The newspaper article, of a site, only express the point of view, the opinion, of one or more individuals and therefore does not express a point of view legal and even less official ;
The second point, at least in France, is to give the floor to the prosecution (which has been done and reproduced in the media) but also to give the floor to the defense (what no other media has done ), but who expressed himself in the court and the judgment, considering the arguments, parts in hand, was made for the benefit of the impeached doctor. AND LEGALLY IT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COUNTSDo not mind as much as the journalists in question!

Wakefield, now based in the United States, was also found not to have been opened with the Lancet.

That's gibberish!

He did not tell them that 55 000 £ funding for the study came from the Legal Aid Board. Wakefield was advising Richard Barr, a lawyer who wanted evidence to sue vaccine manufacturers on behalf of parents of autistic children. It was clearly a conflict of interest and should have been declared.

The same thing was mentioned in the court and Wakefield spoke about it and that does not correspond to what these cabbage leaves say.

You find it normal since after several calls, he escaped.

I especially find that if the court delivered its judgment (to the detriment of the journalist who mounted this case from scratch) it is because he had studied all rooms. Do not even try to substitute yourself for the judicial system without having all the pieces in your hands.

but not because he was right scientifically

To be scientifically correct when this part has hardly been studied by anyone else in such a detailed way by 12 scientists (since it is only co-responsible for the service concerned) not by a single individual, we can say that indeed it is of the scientific type.
The trials involving vaccines and autism (which has been blamed on the research team) has been recognized and compensated for the victims and American scientists and courts are not inferior to ours, which they deny the relationship found in several modern countries. Even more, an autism manager at the CDC acknowledged what is below:

CNN reveals CDC fraud: they have hidden the public 340% from autism risks related to vaccines!

Vaccines & autism, the huge scandal: US official admits CDC withheld data

CDC fraud on the link between autism & vaccines: wave of protest from mothers of child victims


Vaccination causes autism: here's what they know

22 scientific studies show that vaccines can cause autism

The vaccine leaflet mentions autism and sudden infant death in possible side effects

US Federal Court Recognizes Link Between Autism and Vaccines in Two Children
Citizen Initiative

The scandal of autism and the CDC
A tsunami of anger is about to explode

Health Impact News, 3 September 2014

Official communiqué of the Center for Disease Control (CDC), relayed by CNN:
"Vaccines for children are safe, vaccines do not cause autism. "


To be able to hear well:

As previously reported, CNN was the only mainstream media to provide information about the CDC's whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson who confessed that the CDC had concealed key information linking vaccines to the autism. It's a story the mainstream media does not want to cover, because for years the CDC's mantra says there is no evidence that vaccines cause autism.

The story that was published on CNN's website about reports on Dr. Thompson marginalized its importance and did not touch on the content of his conversations with Brian Hooker during which he expressed his deep sadness at having kept the silence during all these years (See: MSM Marginalizes CDC Whistleblower Story on Vaccine-Autism Coverup). So far the other media have not talked much about this case, because this news is still much too "hot" and that the case continues. [...]

Thousands of families, including children who have been damaged by vaccines and have become autistic, have started posting videos on Autism Media YouTube channel on a page with this title, hear the good: we are breaking the silence about vaccine violence ("Hear this well Breaking the Silence on Vaccine Violence


Federal government pays for vaccine damage that caused autism

The National Program for Compensation for Vaccine Accidents paid several sums in compensation for children who became autistic as a result of the vaccines. Most people do not know that the United States is the only country in the world where people whose health has been damaged by vaccines do not have the right to sue the vaccine manufacturer in court. In 1986, Congress passed a law that relieved vaccine manufacturers of all responsibility for vaccine damage because the drug companies that make the vaccines blackmailed threatening to stop vaccine manufacturing if they did not have legal protection. Before that time, there were so many lawsuits following vaccine damage and death that it was no longer profitable for them to continue to manufacture vaccines without legal protection. Thus, instead of Congress demanding that pharmaceutical companies make safer vaccines, it bowed to the demands of the pharmaceutical industry and passed legislation protecting companies. In 2011, this law has been confirmed by the US Supreme Court.

Instead of suing pharmaceutical companies for vaccine damage, the public must file a petition under the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act, which is funded by the tax on vaccine revenues.


It should be noted that it is very difficult to sue the government and win in this special court. Things can take up to 10 years. This is how the 83 autism cases that have been compensated are obviously only the tip of the iceberg.

The tidal wave is becoming a tsunami

The CDC's own numbers regarding the number of children diagnosed with autism is currently one case on 50, while a few years ago it was 1's case on 10.000. This means that almost everyone in the audience is now directly or indirectly in contact with someone with autism.

We are literally surrounded by people and / or families whose health has been damaged by vaccines. It is easy to understand that neither the CDC nor the pharmaceutical companies have the slightest desire to take the blame for this epidemic and recognize the link with vaccines. But how long can this masquerade continue against so much overwhelming evidence? For how long will the population remain passive and continue to believe the media and government health agencies?

Yesterday, Dr. Brownstein published an article on his blog titled: "The CDC's lies, the stagnation of the media and the suffering of our children. "

[...] When you see the anger and grief in the videos posted after Elisabeth Cohen's remarks on CNN, be sure it's just a start. All of these repressed feelings, based on real experiences, are currently a tidal wave that is becoming a tsunami.

I do not know the damage that may occur when the tsunami explodes, but it would be in Congress's interest to act quickly to mitigate most of the damage it helped to create by removing transparency and allowing the current vaccine market to to be what it is today.

They now have clear evidence of CDC fraud through a whistleblower among the CDC's own researchers.

At the same time, publishers and media managers may want to muzzle their medical advisers, as well as scientific publishers who will want to make fun of people whose health has been damaged by vaccines. They probably do not have the slightest idea of ​​the movement they are opposed to, and they surely underestimate a lot this group of angry Americans.

It would be better if the media managed to publish the truth, even if they lost their pharmaceutical sponsors. I can practically guarantee that the first media that will do so will become the most popular news network in the world.

Source: Health Impact News

Wakefield speaking directly to the public after the Vaxeed projection censored by all media, as usual.
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[Gébé]

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
It's not at all the same version as what you tell .... So you know what janic, you should explain that Wakefield is not a thug but a savior of humanity misunderstood and when it will be done, we'll discuss it again later

[izentrop]

As you apologize for crooks, we will not count on you to raise the level of France

[Janic]

As you apologize for crooks, we will not count on you to raise the level of France

you are really indecrotable, that's what lowers the level of intelligence of France.

Gebe bonjour

It's not at all the same version as what you say ....

So be more specific: what differs?

So you know what janic, you should explain there that Wakefield is not a thug but a savior of humanity misunderstood and when it will be done, we talk about it again

The courts do it instead of Janic or anyone else. As for being a savior, do not put the cart before the horse.
You should re-read the history of humanity which is made only of "saviors" misunderstood. Starting with Galileo, or Pastor, following Jenner in England who thought to find a solution to some deadly diseases such as rabies or smallpox. Neither you nor Izentrop could boast of it if the opponents of this "barbarism" had won.
At the same time, England, strong of its national glory, IMPOSA the vaccinations smallpox to all the soldiers (thus 100%) until a huge epidemic is declared, touching mainly these vaccinated ones, with a mortality never reached by wild disease. England abandoned this obligation and never restored it, leaving each citizen free, knowing his history, to choose between two solutions, each having its advantages and disadvantages. In the same way this vaccination was abandoned in the world because of inefficiency after millions of vaccines injected in vain. (WHO report)
The supposed anti-vaccines are in this movement of the right of conscience and choice, no prohibition, no obligation [*]; all the rest is superstition.
In the same way, you could not encourage your children to be hygienic as to wash themselves if a doctor like Semmelweis had not revived this necessary asepsis. But all these "glories" were vilified in their time because challenging the "medical" habits that disturbed the concept of health at the time. And that affects ALL areas of knowledge.
Coming back to Wakefield AND ALL HIS TEAM, not him alone, all are followers of vaccination, including on measles (keep yourself informed otherwise than by fake news) like Pr Joyeux, also favorable to vaccines, but dissociated from each other and not in the form of cocktail, never checked for a possible biological incompatibility.
Now if you are (I do not know!) To create obligations in any field whatsoever, you will not complain when it affects a particular area that the individual concerned would not want to see touched.

[*] It's in French law, in human rights,

[Janic]

You will hear from Wakefield himself that he is not opposed to vaccines, on the contrary, but that he asks that each be given separately and not in the form of a cocktail. and that since the beginning of the case. now if this senior official of the CDC denounces the scandal of the MMR, it is still not the vaccinations that are questioned, but this explosive mixture.
Hopefully this will end the lies and slander that some, follow my look, are happy to repeat in a loop.

Messageby PVresistive »15 / 04 / 18, 11: 07 on philosophical quotes to ponder

"If you do not read the newspaper, you are not informed. If you read the newspaper, you are misinformed. [Mark Twain.]
"Men are born ignorant but not stupid. It's education that makes them stupid. [Bertrand Russell.]
"In these times of universal imposture, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. [George Orwell.]

[Janic]

also reported on this topic which is more the place:



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janic wrote: Among others:
http://www.autisme-france.fr/offres/fil ... 064_89.pdf
involving the mercury of vaccines.

As you are selective
This is not selective, it is only one point among all others as reported by this author. But it is strange, despite everything, that the majority of his signs of intoxication by this product are also found in autism, it's just a remark because in fact it is mercury, aluminum or other crap that there are adjuncts, all are damaging to health and not just for autistic people.


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If you read well
the National Academy of Sciences, recognized in 2001 that;
"The link between mercury in vaccines and autism is biologically plausible."

If you read better than right, just before: »In the US ACIP admitted that there were significant associations between Thimerosal exposure and ADD, tics, speech and language delays and delays in general "and the 3 page (which you have obviously not consulted) makes a comparative list between mercury and autistic signs.

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In 2007 we find this
No connection between autism and mercury http://www.autisme-france.fr/offres/fil ... 035_10.pdf

This site puts forward its intervention AFTER the signs of autism have been noticed so if it put a link, it is nowhere indicated in their action.

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Or :
Eric Fombonne (Canada) undertakes a brilliant (but long) biological exhibition and
epidemiology to demonstrate two assertions: there is no incidence of MMR vaccination
(measles + mumps + rubella) on the appearance of autistic disorders, and there is no
relationship between autism and mercurism (mercury poisoning, which could be found in
some vaccines). http://www.autisme-france.fr/offres/fil ... 1785_4.pdf

This poses the problem of court-awarded compensation for cases of autism after vaccination. This character should, too, see the film censored by many media, which demonstrates the contrary and mainly the high authority of the CDC that recognizes the cheating, lies and destruction of documents annoying, on autism, by this body. ]
However, it can be recognized, as others do, that the number of autists does not simply correspond to an increase in the number of cases, but also to count since this pathology is closely examined, as for cancers. But this only corresponds to a partial aspect which does not eliminate the growing number of cases observed.

among others there too:
This is the case of Chris Shaw, a neurology specialist at the Canadian University of British Columbia in Vancouver. He and his team injected aluminum-based vaccines into mice so that they could analyze the effects:
"After twenty weeks of studies on mice, the team showed significant increases in anxiety (28%), memory deficits (41 times more errors than in the control group) and skin allergies (20%). Tissue samples taken on "sacrificed" mice showed necrotic nerve cells. In the zone controlling the movement, 35% of the cells were destroyed.
«No member of my team do not want to be vaccinatedsays Shaw. These results gave us goose bumps »



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Stop your tank, it's as big as a mountain your propaganda antivaxx

And you, the false propaganda of Provaxx. that you relaies, with a touch of additional slander.
[*] It is also interesting to see that the congress, so quick to seize scandals, does not care much for this one, for the moment, since this calls into question an important authority like the CDC.

And as obviously you are a size in vaccine biology clearly answers these fundamental questions:

1) so you agree that no pharmacokinetic study is done !?
2) For there to be no mutagenesis study?
3) Do you also agree that there are no carcinogenesis studies done?
4) That there are no teratogenesis studies, either?
5) And so studies against true placebo are not done?
6) And you find, of course, normal also that pharmacovigilance only identifies between 1 and 10% side effects that only enter the statistics?

[Janic]

This is a denial of democracy for the interview part of Thomas Diétrich!
or this one

a choice