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Everyone will judge the veracity of your sources
Exactly! The only credible sources are the judgments rendered(and therefore quoted by a channel which is not the source in question, but refers to it, as do specialist magazines, the media in general and even pseudo-pseudoscience) and therefore that anyone can consult (if we know English obviously!) The sources you indicate do not refer to these judgments because it does not support their previous speeches, which would disqualify them vis-à-vis public opinion. Fortunately, however, there are still a few that do. :D
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Court judgments are not scientific evidence and you know that.
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izentrop wrote:Court judgments are not scientific evidence and you know that.


Hello except:

- that the courts rely on experts and therefore scientists
- what does scientific mean? science has always shown its limits!
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Scientific evidence is analyzed by independent reading committees and it must reach a consensus with the scientific community concerned to be valid.
Experts are not free from conflicts of interest.
Often the courts award compensation to complainants to compensate for the inadequacies of social services in certain areas, this does not prove scientific evidence.
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Court judgments are not scientific evidence and you know that.
That's right ! But the courts which are genuinely independent, themselves, from scientific groups or not, do not judge on the scientific validity of this or that subject, but on facts.

In a recent court decision released on 13 December 2012, the court awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars to Ryan Mojabi [1] whose parents had explained how the MMR vaccine (Measles, Mumps Rubella) had caused in their child "serious and debilitating brain damage that was ultimately diagnosed as "Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)".
Later that month, the government suffered a second major loss when young Emily from Houston was compensated for the brain damage that once again followed the MMR vaccine and led to autism of the girl.


For Wakefied, this is not a scientific judgment either, but it only relates to the defamation suffered by the parties concerned.

Parts and accessories they were shown to be baseless. The judge added that the conclusions were based on "inadequate and superficial reasoning in many respects and that the final conclusion was false. "
The Wakefield team who worked on the subject (and not Wakefield alone) concluded that a link could be established between the children's problems and the immunization they had undergone and therefore the court took them into account, much more than according to the journalist (who is precisely not a scientist, him). Finally W was struck off, not for professional misconduct, but for offense of opinion

As for the so-called scientific evidence, it sometimes takes decades to reach a consensus, often disputed by other scientists, and it is endless because behind there are always important economic interests. Like Servier or asbestos, the Levothyrox in the news or the MMR and everything else!
Scientific evidence is analyzed by reading committees self-employed and they must reach consensus with the scientific community concerned to be valid.
independent committees is a myth recognized by many scientists, including our current Minister of Health. For the scientific community, it is not independent either because most of its credits come from the industry which concerns them
Experts are not free from conflicts of interest.
Exactly and you who has the science infuses how do you discern those who are or are not in conflict of interest?
Often the courts award compensation to complainants to compensate for the inadequacies of social services in certain areas, this does not prove scientific evidence.
In science as in the legal field, for lack of incontestable direct evidence which depends on the present state of science (for example fingerprints, DNA which are recent), it is the concordant indices which are taken into account which allow to build a theory or a judgment. Nothing to do with social services!

Behind the scenes of the film on autism in the De Niro case

Behind the scenes of the film on autism in the De Niro case
Dr. Andrew Wakefield, former British gastroenterologist and vaccine researcher, and Professor John Walker-Smith, world-renowned pediatric gastroenterologist - who allegedly carried out fraudulent tests on children who showed a possible link between the popular vaccine MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) and the onset of autism and other severe symptoms -, have been fully exonerated from the charges against them. What is most remarkable is that, despite the fact-finding by a British court, more than four years ago, in 2012, the mainstream media in the United Kingdom and the United States, de facto, deliberately chose to ignore this reality. They did this to hide the explosive content of the Waxfield documentary Vaxxed.

Last April, Robert de Niro, Hollywood actor and founder of the Tribeca film festival, announced in an interview with the New York Times that, with the intention of opening a national debate on the subject, he had personally planned to screen the new documentary Vaxxed, on the links between autism and vaccination, on April 24 at its festival. About 48 hours later, the Tribeca website announced that it had removed the documentary. The pressure had been enormous. To the credit of De Niro, a few days later, on the most popular morning show in the United States, although he was not opposed to vaccines, he repeated that he wanted an open debate on the subject, his own son being autistic .


exonerated
In February 2012, at the High Court of Justice, Queen's Bench Division, the Administrative Court of Great Britain, Judge Mitting held hearings on the charges against the world-renowned pediatric gastroenterologist, Professor John Walker-Smith, associate researcher at Dr. Wakefield.
Justice has ruled that charges against Walker-Smith to "the decision of the Group of Experts of the British General Medical Council, cannot hold. They are therefore canceled. Walker-Smith won his appeal against the regulator General Medical Council which had ruled against him and Andrew Wakefield for their role as authors of an article on the MMR vaccine, which appeared in 1998 in The Lancet. This article had raised questions about the link between the MMR vaccine and autism. This complete victory means that Walker-Smith has completely regained his status as a medical officer ...


Surprisingly, the judge noted that the conclusions of the General Medical Council, which had deprived both Walker-Smith and Wakefield of their medical certification in the United Kingdom, were based on "insufficient and superficial motivation and, in a certain number of requests, on false conclusions ... " Ultimately, this implies that the finding of serious professional misconduct and the sanction of deprivation of medical practice have both been overturned.. The judge noted that at the General Medical Council trial against Walker-Smith and Wakefield, there were no real complainants, no harm had been done to the children studied, and parents, testifying to the fact that their children had medically benefited from the treatment received at the Royal Free Hospital, argued Walker-Smith and Wakefield throughout the trial.

In 2012, upon learning of Walker-Smith's exoneration from his new home in Texas, Wakefield launched a defamation lawsuit against the British Medical Journal and three individuals who had falsely accused him of "fraud".


The Lancet study, which Professor Walker-Smith and Dr. Andrew Wakefield wrote in collaboration, never asserted a causal link between the Glaxo SmithKline MMR vaccine and autism. Rather, she suggested that a serious study should be launched. The Lancet article was retracted in 2010 after the trial of the British General Medical Council. The Lancet belongs to the large Elsevier group, whose president had been appointed to the board of directors of Glaxo SmithKline, a large manufacturer of MMR vaccines in 2003.

In the latest media attack campaign led by the New York Times, The Guardian in the United Kingdom and other mainstream media, attention was drawn to a unique fact: Robert de Niro had organized the screening of the documentary Vaxxed, directed by Wakefield. The Guardian had subtitled his article, "The actor is criticized for having mixed up the medical doctor Andrew Wakefield, who was struck off the medical staff of the United Kingdom ..."
The CDC's fraudulent autism tests - The serious media cover-up

The most serious cover-up, however, was the refusal of the mainstream press to write a single word about the explosive data revealed by the Wakefield documentary. If the press had not concealed the facts, it is quite possible that Glaxo SmithKline, the world's largest vaccine seller, and other manufacturers of MMR vaccines, are now in bankruptcy proceedings.

Presented by Vaxxed of Wakefield, the documents show that " The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of the US Government) has deliberately and deliberately concealed the considerably increased risk of autism associated with MMR vaccination, which stems from the vaccination schedule it recommends (at 18 months) for the subgroups of vulnerable children, that is to say African American boys and the "rare" children with autism who, for the most part, previously presented normal development. As a result, millions of children have been pushed into a harmful practice. (Emphasized by us.)
The documentary, which features "interviews with pharmaceutical insiders, doctors, politicians and parents of children disabled by immunization," presents the testimony of the CDC's whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, researcher, who in 2004 led the Centre's study on the Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine and its link to autism. The Wakefield documentary has been detailing the case since 2013, when Thompson, clearly aware, contacted Dr. Brian Hooker, a biologist, by phone. Thompson "confessed that in its final report, the CDC had omitted crucial data revealing a causal link between MMR vaccine and autism. (Emphasized by us.)

In 2015, during a series of telephone discussions with US Congressman Bill Posey, Thompson reported (all of this is recorded) that while he was a senior researcher at the CDC, after completion of study on link between vaccines and incidence of autism in black baby boys, he and colleagues "plan to meet to destroy study documents. The remaining four co-authors all got together, brought a large trash can to the meeting room, sifted through all the paper documentation, and threw everything they thought should be disposed of into the large trash can. According to a quote, Thompson admits, "Oh my God! I can't believe we did this. Yet we did. "

In the documentary, Dr. Hooker says that he recorded the telephone conversations he had with Dr. Thompson for several months. These communications revealed the confidential data destroyed by his colleagues at the CDC. The documentary urges Congress to summon Dr. William Thompson to appear; investigate the CDC's embezzlement; and repeal the National Childhood Vaccine Injury law of 1986, which frees the vaccine industry from all responsibility and its casualness towards the damage caused by its vaccines.

This criminal duplicity of the CDC, the government center responsible for protecting the health and sanitation of Americans, is the real center of the drama of Robert De Niro and Vaxxed of Wakefield. Before deciding to include Vaxxed in its film festival, De Niro said that he had become thoroughly familiar with the William CDC case. De Niro had spoken at length with Bill Posey of Congress about his recorded telephone conversations with Thompson, the CDC's whistleblower.

The Rockefeller Health Commission (not at all)

In 2009, the Rockefeller Foundation website posted the centenary of the founding of the Rockefeller Health Commission. Originally, John D. Rockefeller, Standard Oil tycoon, founded this Commission in 1909. They explain, "... cause a cooperative movement between the medical profession, public health officials, chambers of commerce, churches, schools. , press and other organizations, for the cure and prevention of hookworm disease. As the Rockefeller Foundation now admits, hookworm eradication was just a "good trick" for the Rockefeller Health Commission to promote the creation of a well-organized and funded public health network. ... "

In the USA, in the 1920s, the Rockefeller Foundation launched the complete reorganization of medical education. While discrediting and demonizing a number of alternative approaches, it oriented it towards pharmaceutical chemistry and surgery. In reality, it was doing in the medical field what the Standard Oil group had done in the oil world: To have helm.

According to what the Rockefeller foundation exhibits on its website, it is responsible for the major WHO, CDC and other revolution of the 1980s, aimed at prescribing multiple mass vaccinations for infants very early:
Aimed at providing childhood vaccines, the Rockefeller Foundation's efforts around the world began in 1984, following an international meeting on the protection of the world's children, held at its conference center in Bellagio, Italy. International medical delegates, government officials and philanthropists gathered to discuss the idea of ​​a global childhood immunization program as a means of providing first aid and reducing infant mortality in the developing world. The World Health Organization (WHO) had already initiated the Expanded Vaccination Program in 1980; however, in the following years, this program faces financial constraints. The meeting in Bellagio raised hundreds of millions of dollars to finance this program.

Anyway, the truly explosive early childhood event, the multiple childhood vaccinations, happened when the Rockefeller Foundation and its Children's Vaccine Initiative teamed up with the Billions of Billions and Melinda Gates Foundation , founded in 1994. In 1999, at a World Bank summit, still in the center of Bellagio des Rockefeller, senior executives from the Rockefeller Foundation, the Gates Foundation, WHO, the World Bank and UNICEF. In 2000, they agreed to create and fund a new organization, Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization, to replace the Children's Vaccine Initiative.

This brief history is crucial in the context of the staggering number of vaccines administered on the recommendation of the WHO and the CDC since precisely the mid-1980s, when the Rockefeller Foundation launched the project. Furthermore, at the same time, this same foundation was deeply involved in the launch of the GMO project, in collaboration with the Monsanto company, on the board of directors of which Rockefeller sat.


It is precisely since the 1980s, when the Rockefeller vaccine initiative was launched, that the alarming rise in infant autism began to manifest itself. More recently, between 2008 and 2010, in the United States, the autism rate rose to almost 30%. Infant autism cases have more than doubled since 2000. According to a new study by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, among children aged 8, one in 68 is autistic. Thirty years ago, autism was virtually unknown in the United States. In 1943, when it was first described by Leo Kanner, it was thought to occur at the rate of 4 to 5 children in 10.000. Today it's 1 in 68!

CDC claims not to know cause !
This is clearly not due to genetic evolution, since these changes only appear after many generations. There must therefore be a serious change in the environment of children. The most significant environmental change since the 1980s in the United States, where it is well established, was the intensity and frequency of multiple vaccinations - all, including MMR - for young people and now very young.
The alarming studies of Mrs Ratajczak
In 2011, Dr. Helen Ratajczak, herself a former researcher in the pharmaceutical industry, published in the journal Journal of Immunotoxicology, a groundbreaking article called Theoretical Aspects of Autism: A Review of the Causes. Ratajczak did what apparently no researcher thought she had to do: sift through all the scientific publications that have come out since autism was first described in 1943. She didn't just study theories advanced by research, such as the role of MMR bites or the thimerosal mercury preservative, but all of the publications.

Ratajczak's article states, in part, that " established causes of autism include genetic mutations and / or deletions, viral infections and encephalitis [brain damage] following vaccination. Autism is therefore the consequence of genetic defects and / or brain inflammation. (Emphasized by us.)

In a detailed interview with Vactruth.com, Dr. Ratajczak said that the current situation is due to childhood exposure to several vaccines, the very agenda of the CDC who faked vaccine data on autism to be kind to the pharmaceutical industry.

She noted, "In the United States, in 2010, 50 doses of 14 vaccines were administered at the age of six, with Hip B made at birth, and again at 2 months the Rotavirus, Diphtheria, Tetanus, Whooping cough (three vaccines in one injection), homophile type B influenza, pneumococcus and inactivated poliomyelitis. From an immunology point of view, two months is the most vulnerable age. Most infants die at two months because the mother's immune protection declines, and their immunity is still immature. "

Dr. Ratajczak goes on to speak of the alarming finding from his years of research, “In this way, the immune system is compromised at two months. A singular fight led by so many vaccines, while the immune system is compromised, could well contribute to the onset of autism (Ratajczak, 2011). The inflammation created by vaccines could damage the central nervous system and the brain. "

It shows several proven studies on the effect of delaying childhood vaccination after 2 years: “ In Japan, some doctors do not give vaccines to infants for two months, and begin to vaccinate only children 2 years of age or older. Before 17th, Japan then obtained the lowest infant mortality in the world (Vaccine Awareness Network, May 5, 2011). Similar results have appeared in other countries, such as the United Kingdom. Post-neonatal mortality declined in 1976, when an advertisement for brain damage from pertussis vaccine appeared. The vaccination rate then fell to only 10-30%, with a simultaneous drop in the infant mortality rate »


A compromising video

In French TV Envoy Special, a recent documentary revealed that since 2015, in France, parents who are required by law to vaccinate their children against diphtheria, tetanus and polio, can only do so '' by giving their children versatile vaccines marketed by Glaxo SmithKline, such as hexavalent vaccine, or Hexavac in liquid form by Sanofi Pasteur.

This television show obtained an explosive video from June 2012. It shows Jean Stéphenne, former director of the vaccine department of Glaxo SmithKline, bragging about his success during a presentation. He then explained Glaxo SmithKline's strategy: “ We bought all the patents on hepatitis B. This is the first time that a vaccine is protected by patents, so we have all the patents. And now you competitors, if you want to come into the market, you have to negotiate with us ... We are including hepatitis B [patented] in other patent-free "products", and in doing so, the vaccine being produced. is fully protected. So the strategy is not that complicated [applause]. The previous DTP vaccine (Diphtheria, Tetanus, Poliomyelitis) cost 24 euros. The "hexavalent" vaccine, 120 euros. The French TV show asked if Glaxo SmithKline's patent strategy was driven by real health concerns or by profit.

Today, there may be no greater harm done to human beings than is promoted by the pharmaceutical industry, and its ability to make friends, influence politicians to adopt laws in its favor, and persuading mainstream media to hide the horrific toll and the number of victims disabled by infant vaccines. In Germany, I had the personal opportunity to see in clinics what vaccine damage can do to children. They are suffocated. It is reality itself.

Despite the fact that Andrew Wakefield's Vaxxed was pulled at the last minute, Robert De Niro, alone in the media storm, has done the world a great service. By drawing attention to Wakefield's work and the urgent need for an international organization, the documentary has put the spotlight on the possible links between vaccines, especially multiple MMR, and autism spectrum disorders. Instead of shooting the news bearer, Andrew Wakefield, honest journalism could deal with the content of the Wakefield documentary. It makes you think.

William F. Engdahl is a strategic risk consultant and speaker. With a degree in politics from Princeton University, he is the author of bestsellers on petroleum and geopolitics. Article originally written for the online magazine New Eastern Outlook.


NEO, William Engdahl, June 8, 2016

Original: journal-neo.org/2016/06/08/what-media-hid-in-de-niro-autism-film-affair/
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by izentrop » 08/06/18, 13:25

Antivax sites tell what they want to tell, the truth comes from elsewhere.
For example, even if it is not a medical journal
In the two cases mentioned in the article, the parents were able to demonstrate that their child suffered from encephalopathy in the weeks following a vaccine, but there is no link with autism.

How does the viral inspector know this? He went to see the court documents! (censored for the public, my eye).

According to these documents, Ryan Mojabi received his vaccine on December 10, 2003. He suffered what appears to be encephalopathy in the following weeks. The first indicators that Ryan had cognitive impairment appeared on May 27, 2005, and he was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder on December 28, 2005.

In fact, an autism test was administered to Ryan before his diagnosis on May 10, 2004, and again on January 25, 2005. Both times the result was normal. It is difficult to see how a vaccine could suddenly cause autism two years later. In addition, the court does not recognize in any way that the vaccine caused his autism.

For Emily Lowrie, there is absolutely no mention of autism in the decision. Zero then a bar. We only talk about encephalopathy. http://journalmetro.com/opinions/inspec ... -lautisme/
No, they didn't. They didn't even decide that the MMR was causing Ryan's injury, only that compensation was appropriate under their rules. In addition, Ryan did not have autism. He had encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) which caused brain damage. This can cause symptoms that look superficially like autism (to a non-expert), but it is not autism.

Natural News further reports this as a justification for Andrew Wakefield, when it is nothing at all. Wakefield's falsified science remains completely discredited.

The real facts surrounding encephalitis, measles and vaccines are also missing from the alarmist articles. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/mmr-an ... -the-dead/
So stop your propaganda. I hope that one day you will understand that you are doing a lot of harm with your rumors. :(
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Antivax sites tell what they want to tell, the truth comes from elsewhere.
The truth coming from a provacx which would have more value than those of the supposed antivax :?: [*]
For Emily Lowrie, there is absolutely no mention of autism in the decision. Zero then a bar. We only talk about encephalopathy. http://journalmetro.com/opinions/inspec ... -authority /
Again, this is correct! But also, once again, justice does not declare itself as competent in scientific matters, the experts are divided on these questions, but on facts and their relationship.
The Wakefield team never said that MMR was the sole cause of autism, but that the link needed to be studied. Emily should reread her classics.
Now as soon as this problem is looked at closely, really independently, if it ever happens because it has to be granted credits… absent, we'll see what it leads to!
So stop your propaganda. I hope that one day you will understand that you are doing a lot of harm with your rumors.
propaganda question you are badly placed to try the subject!
Who do you take yourself to be the criterion of what is good or bad?
As for rumors, your usual references are only made of that!

[*] once again, the "antivax" are not antivax, but on the contrary are for the respect of individual choices. Non-smokers are not anti-smokers, but anti-tobacco for themselves, not for others; non-drinkers are not against drinkers but against alcohol, for themselves, leaving everyone free to choose.
But when an individual, a group, a state wants to impose, force to undergo a violence without consent, it is condemned by law, by ethics. Unfortunately, this is what all totalitarian systems do!
But free to you and to all those who wish to be poisoned as they see fit. This is the freedom of conscience that, according to your interventions, you would like to ban!
But wanting others to take risks to protect your hypochondriac little person and your ilk, don't dream! : Evil:
Here we are faced with the same problem as what separates organic farming from chemical farming, from organic farming to alternative medicine, where it is the biggest, the richest, the most powerful that wants to be to impose on others, which is contradictory to democracy, of which Amhed speaks much better than I do.
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Janic wrote:For Emily Lowrie, there is absolutely no mention of autism in the decision. Zero then a bar. We only talk about encephalopathy. http://journalmetro.com/opinions/inspec ... -authority /
Again, this is correct!
You have a short memory
the same Janic wrote: CMA director Dr. Andrew Wakefield and parents of autistic children were right down the line.

In a recent court decision released on 13 December 2012, the court awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars to Ryan Mojabi [1] whose parents had explained how the MMR vaccine (Measles, Mumps Rubella) had caused in their child "serious and debilitating brain damage that was ultimately diagnosed as "Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)".

Later that month, the government suffered a second major loss when young Emily from Houston was compensated for the brain damage that once again followed the MMR vaccine and led to autism of the girl.

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You have a short memory
here then!
the same Janic wrote:
CMA director Dr. Andrew Wakefield and parents of autistic children were right down the line.
No! There is a difference fundamental between writing and quoting, copying and pasting, and this is a quote that only engages its author in form as in substance, which you cheerfully do with your pseudo-pseudoscience. What is their right and you yours to quote them as for the last.

now are you for the right of conscience or not?
Have you seen the film Vaxxed which develops the subject in detail?
do you recognize court decisions as valid?
do you recognize this as valid: "The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of the US Government) has deliberately and deliberately concealed the considerably increased risk of autism associated with MMR vaccination, which stems from the vaccination schedule it recommends (at 18 months) for under -groups of vulnerable children, that is to say African-American boys and the "rare" children with autism who, for the most part, previously presented normal development. As a result, millions of children have been pushed into a harmful practice. "

and still this?
The documentary, which features "interviews with pharmaceutical insiders, doctors, politicians and parents of children with immunization disabilities," features testimony from CDC's whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, master of research, which led in 2004 the study of the Center on the measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine (ROR) and its link with autism. The Wakefield documentary has been detailing the case since 2013, when Thompson, clearly aware, contacted Dr. Brian Hooker, a biologist, by phone. Thompson "admitted that in its final report, the CDC omitted crucial data revealing a causal link between MMR vaccine and autism.

and again:
In a detailed interview with Vactruth.com, Dr. Ratajczak said that the current situation is due to childhood exposure to several vaccines, the very agenda of the CDC who faked vaccine data on autism to be kind to the pharmaceutical industry.
and always this:
She shows several proven studies on the effect of delaying infant immunization after 2 years: “In Japan, some doctors do not administer any vaccine to infants for two months, and begin to vaccinate only children 2 years of age or older. Before 17th, (Vaccine Awareness Network, May 5, 2011). Similar results have appeared in other countries, such as the United Kingdom. Post-neonatal mortality declined in 1976, when an advertisement for brain damage from pertussis vaccine appeared. The vaccination rate then fell to only 10 to 30%, with a simultaneous drop in the infant mortality rate.
Japan then obtained the lowest infant mortality in the world

etc ...
So stop your propaganda. I hope that one day you will understand that you are doing a lot of harm with your rumors.
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izentrop wrote:Scientific evidence is analyzed by independent reading committees and it must reach a consensus with the scientific community concerned to be valid.


We know that what is validated at a time is often invalidated thereafter, history is punctuated by big bullshit validated by the scientific authorities of the moment ./
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