Exnihiloest wrote:This example does not demonstrate any of this. It only demonstrates our intellectual inability to see all the elements and deduce their potential.
You are a caveman, with a child. You see flints and twigs. You see two elements et you see the potential of the whole to make fire. The child sees nothing.
The fact that the physical universe is full of potential is a most obvious fact, but that does not call into question that a sum of elements in synergy forms something greater than the simple addition of their individual functionalities.
The progress that is so dear to you works like this, if you take 10 engineers to whom you submit a problem you will have 10 solutions to the problems, now if you make the 10 engineers work together you will have something more than a sum of work individual, we call it teamwork, there is nothing easier to understand ...
If an adult understands something that a child does not grasp, it is only because the latter integrates into his brain a sum of information from group work, from education, imitation and experience because we are dwarves perched on the shoulders of giants ".
No discovery is possible without this accumulation of knowledge.
The element of intelligence can be seen as a thermostat. You have a system in contact with its environment, which takes information from its environment (such as temperature) and processes it to initiate an action (heating control). You multiply by billions, and you have a human brain for which you have become unable to see all of the stimuli and processing, a matter of complexity
Except that a system does not appear ex nihilo (sic!) But results from an evolutionary process. You have to think in terms of structuring information, otherwise a brain would be nothing but a pile of mush ...
The whole which does not exist, it is not mine, it is yours, that which would be greater than the sum of its parts and whose novelty would therefore appear by spontaneous generation, like that in which we believed there a few centuries. My whole is the realization of the potential of the elements that compose it. This one exists.
You try to make me say things that I did not say for mistakes of solvent arguments ... which to speak of "novelty ex nihilo" (re-sic!)
There is nothing new except for an observer given at a time X.
Discoveries are only possible by common reflection, a consequence of the energy dissipated by a set of cognitive systems.
Potentially there is obviously an astronomical sum of possibilities, but only those which are discovered take on a meaning and are considered as real.
The elements allowing the construction of a particle accelerator already existed in the Neolithic, however it was not until the 1930s to see one appear.
It is only the sum of the knowledge of humanity which has enabled the appearance of such a machine in a sufficiently long time. It results from a group intelligence existing through time, without this set, this whole , no inventions would ever see the light of day ... it's not hard to get it right?
