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by gegyx » 27/05/06, 22:42

Social peace, of course, but if the cash doesn't come in, we can't redistribute it ...
And your social peace would not last long with only comforting words.
(you would have to sell a lot of airbuses to those who don't want them ... : Cheesy: )
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by Christophe » 27/05/06, 22:56

Lost Gegyx!

Sorry but ... the Rmi costs nothing to the State on the contrary ... soon some explanations on econologie.com about this ...

In your discreetness, one has the impression that the money given to a Rmiste or unemployed person is destroyed for the State ... which is false (unless the Rmiste exports currency abroad) ... it continues to circulate (and therefore contribute to the Rmi) ... and the State gets its hands on it ... sooner or later ... (by making the economy work ... better a small consumer than no consumer at all !).

The economy is an exciting field ... which I only discover little by little and the "official" discourse is too often biased!

The current bp is the fiancers, the extreme capitalists and the speculators ... not the Rmistes ...
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by gegyx » 27/05/06, 23:04

and unemployment? that's good, on contributions and taxes on wages.
No jobs, no more unemployment benefits.

Your customary reference to civil servants is not a solution either; no money going into the state coffers, no civil servant. Ah yes, senior officials, and a barrier of order service as an imperial guard.
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by Christophe » 28/05/06, 20:30

gegyx wrote:Your customary reference to civil servants


: Shock: Don't mix it all up ... where did I talk about an official in this discussion? And I don't really see the rmi / functional ratio ... but you can be?

Look at the state deficit figure on your tax sheet (which you must have recently received) and you will understand that everything is just a big masquerade (if the state were in surplus people would wonder about the fact that taxes are increasing ...)

... Ditto for the deficit of the social security ... all it is wind and pretexts to plumb a little more the private individuals and the companies ... One speaks about the external debt of the USA to finish? (just to show that it does not bother them to continue to be an overpower ...) ... All these are purely VIRTUAL financial considerations ..

Ah, how exciting the economy is ... :D

Here I put this specially for you: https://www.econologie.com/forums/fable-la-d ... t1914.html

ps: I still really have a lot of difficulties with these notions that's why my explanations are lamentable ... but I try to know more (I never had an economics class) .. .
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by zac » 28/05/06, 22:15

Econology wrote:ps: I still really have a lot of difficulties with these notions that's why my explanations are lamentable ... but I try to know more (I never had an economics class) .. .

Hello
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: Idea: rather try to try to find the flaws in the crooks who pluck us and enlarge them (the flaws) it's more fun :P
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by Christophe » 28/05/06, 22:18

zac wrote:don't try: you don't look stupid so you risk understanding and there you are going to shoot yourself in the head : Evil:

: Idea: rather try to try to find the flaws in the crooks who pluck us and enlarge them (the flaws) it's more fun :P


Who tells you that I have not already "arrived" (at least started)? ... In one case as in the other? : Cry:
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by lau » 28/05/06, 22:24

Econology wrote:Sorry but ... the Rmi costs nothing to the State on the contrary ... soon some explanations on econologie.com about this ...


Without doing politics because I hate that, the RMI established under the Rocard government was the logical result of the economic decay of France in the late 80s.
This has brought comfort to many people in need but it has also increased assistantship. It is not for nothing that soon the RMI taxpayers will have to pay a small TIG (community service).
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by freddau » 30/05/06, 17:32

Yes,

but there is a limit anyway .....
If the Chinese steal their client's job ..... is there no one left to buy them something ??

There are those who have raw materials, yes ... but they certainly do not want a single buyer and single supplier even if he practices cannon / dumping prices.
So they would still need a diversification of customers because otherwise we are dependent and after the customer serves the balls slowly but surely, and the supplier is suffocated.

So the supplier will opt more for different customers, finally I hope.

I also invite you to read the plague of raw materials ...
Just look at the petroleum countries, there is a lot of money at stake and it turns your head and forget the realities, only Norway is out ...

As for the others, countries are faced with an inflation of their currency because everyone buys it to obtain local currency and bought the material they need.
And then local industries are faced with the rise in their currency and can no longer export (a bit like the euro but that's the fault of our central bank, well I think)
Typed "Dutch disease" on wiki.com

And then what do you do when you have exhausted all your basement of raw materials like Lorraine. You become a dead region ... because not very interesting if you have no agriculture, etc ...
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by bojourvous5094 » 06/06/06, 03:25

How Jobs Transfer To China :?: :?: :?:

Here is another example….


Construction of the industrial park
Chinese-American in central China

2006-06-04

ZHENGZHOU, June 4 (Xinhua) - The "California industrial city", a Sino-American industrial cooperation project, was started in the Zhengdong district of the city of Zhengzhou, provincial capital of Henan (center).

The park, built in three phases, will specialize in aerospace, pharmacy, new materials, construction materials, automotive and electronics.
The project was sponsored by Zhengzhou State-owned Assets Management Company and California Industrial City Development Corporation.

Foreign investments in the project will amount to $ 2 billion and the infrastructure put in place over three years. End
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source: http://www.french.xinhuanet.com/french/ ... 261999.htm
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by The Passing » 06/06/06, 07:46

I confirm that the Chinese are watering the market well with their "camelotte": I bought an electric scooter .... and I fell from above, the quality is really poor: play in mechanical parts, finishing in ch .. .... in short, return to the merchant and refund made, it cooled me :)

It's over with regard to the purchase of "cheap Chinese" equipment : Cheesy: I prefer to wait until I have the money to buy made in France or Germany, it's much safer!
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