Milk prices: blocking of central purchasing in the west

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by Superform » 11/06/09, 18:42

I recently learned that small producers are no longer allowed to sell their milk directly ...

My mother bought it every week, and now she can not (blah blah blah hygiene standards blah blah blah)

There are still eggs ... but for how long?
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by Christophe » 11/06/09, 18:48

Ben shit, are you sure of this?

I do not know where we are going but we are going ... : Evil: : Evil:

I "found" the famous farmer from Lyon: https://www.econologie.com/forums/france-3-3 ... t5518.html

Here it reminded me of this small producer of organic milk on the side of Lyon who made the nique to the complete distribution network by installing an automatic distributor of organic milk on a parking lot.

Price: 1,2 € the liter for BIO if I remember correctly.
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by C moa » 11/06/09, 19:06

Me too, I find this lamentable. A few years ago, there had been similar movements and at the time farmers were saying that to live they had to buy the milk 3 f / liter (0.45ct d '€). 28 cts a few years later while a lot of things have grown, do not push granny in the nettles either ....

I quite agree with Christophe, you have to promote a parallel network of AMAP style !!! Everyone will win!

In my bled in France, there is a farm (the farm Chardonnay, a little pub for them it does not hurt) where we took all our vollailles and sometimes eggs. I received a paper from them a few weeks ago, today they have made a farm shop with vollailles of course but also fruits, vegetables, jams, dairy products (it would be necessary I find the document to know if there is milk), beef and pork ....

It's not an AMAP but I imagine (and I hope) that they make a better living, so what's on it is that it's a very good initiative because everything is grouped together. We do not have the time (not to mention the fuel and its releases) to make 3 farms to have everything we need.
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by bham » 11/06/09, 19:06

Christophe wrote:Oh shit or I read too quickly sorry ... saw the debate was the price of milk paid to the farmer ... So your example is the opposite of what I thought: it's even worse in Germany.

How much is the producer? 20 cts / L at best?

So what do you think is the type of farming behind this? Sustainable?
Reasoned?
Organic?
Intensive?
(strike out the mention useless)


Bah more reason to buy exclusively MILK BIO!

No, the price of milk is paid the same price to German farmers as to French farmers, what I wanted to say is that the margins are lower in Germany, which means that the German consumer could very well pay for his milk a little more expensive and the farmer to be paid a little more, and that it could very well apply in France too, if there were so many intermediate margins.
For organic milk, kif kif, one finds more easily than in France and for less than 1 € / l.
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by Christophe » 11/06/09, 19:16

bham wrote:No, the price of the milk is paid the same price to the German farmers as to the French farmers, what I wanted to say is that the margins are lower in Germany


Would it surprise me if a sold 41 cts milk is paid 30 cts to the operator ca leaves 5 cts for ALL intermediaries HT? There, you dream bham !!

It's still cross-border legends as there are so many ... :|

I think rather that the farmers who supply the Lidl and other hard discount are more industrial than farmer ... 500 heads is the minimal number ...

The yes they can make a milk 15 or 20 cts the liter sold 41 cts ... I do not believe that such farms exist in France!

The average in France of dairy farms is 50-60 heads ...

And otherwise how much is the price of milk in Germany?
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by Former Oceano » 11/06/09, 20:29

Owl we developed a motor running on milk?

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by C moa » 11/06/09, 20:57

I found the site of the farmhouse chardonnet, the liter of pasteurized semi-skimmed fresh milk is at ... 0,95 € the liter.

Some products are more expensive than in supermarkets but you have to know what you want ...

In any case, I know by what end I start when I return in July : Mrgreen:
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by Pear Belle Helene » 11/06/09, 21:00

In my bled in France, there is a farm (the farm Chardonnay, a little pub for them it does not hurt) where we took all our vollailles and sometimes eggs. I received a paper from them a few weeks ago, today they have made a farm shop with vollailles of course but also fruits, vegetables, jams, dairy products (it would be necessary I find the document to know if there is milk), beef and pork ....


Here is the idea that I would like to find develloped here because finally nothing is worth a consumption of proximity, we all have to win even if it is not only organic.

A friend to this near her village in Pilat, I went with her, the meat is cheaper than Leclerc next door and the quality is at the appointment.
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by Pear Belle Helene » 11/06/09, 21:20

This is what I would like to see one day in the village


http://lelaitdelaferme.com/
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by Christophe » 12/06/09, 00:43

Pear Belle Helene wrote:This is what I would like to see one day in the village
http://lelaitdelaferme.com/


Héé played well LN! It's him I mentioned above ... I think!

Ah yes it's him, it's the region of Lyon:

Gerard GAYET

EARL GAYET OF THE GONDOLIERE
THE GONDOLIERE
69930 ST LAURENT OF CHAMOUSSET


Regarding the machine, it is Italian apparently:


Image

THE DISTRIBUTOR
An idea from elsewhere.

It is in Italy that Gerard GAYET went to get the idea of ​​this distributor. More precisely in the Lombardy region, where these installations are legions. To date, there are more 500 distributors. On farms or in various public places, these distributors are scattered throughout the region. This concept now extends beyond the Lombardian borders, and is gradually being established throughout Italy. In view of this success, Gérard GAYET decided to install his own distributor of raw organic milk in Saint Laurent De Chamousset in the Rhône. This one was inaugurated the 19 April 2008


http://lelaitdelaferme.com/distributeurs.html

The advertised price on the website is 1.1 € / L! Good!

The section under construction "In France" would indicate that the idea will spread !? Read also: http://lelaitdelaferme.com/medias.html

A friend to this near her village in Pilat, I went with her, the meat is cheaper than Leclerc next door and the quality is at the appointment.


Same here: the local butcher cheaper and better quality than big distribution! From what I understand it is one of the few butchers still have his own beasts ... We will bring you one of his hams at the next appointment econo!

But will change the habits of kk1 ... not obvious ...
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