ALERTS !!!! Capitalism must disappear quickly

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by Obamot » 28/11/10, 17:30

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Gébé wrote: "giving free rein to the spirit of enterprise" is in essence capitalism and as dedeleco emphasizes we (unfortunately) have no examples of other systems that have functioned sustainably. "

Not necessarily. In China, entrepreneurship is encouraged. And we would have to agree on the term “capitalism”.

... gébé, it would not be the one who would "fold" in front of savage capitalism because he would consider that "since being" the least bad of systems "it alone would justify all the political flaws it engenders"(ie 9/11) - and in the alternative the stranglehold of the West on mineral resources including oil?
- it would not be the one who would be ready to treat those who would dare to suspect these extreme drifts, of «Conspiracy» to discredit them?
- it is not the one who, at the same time, would imply that an emerging country would be wrong to take advantage of the windfall that represents own mineral resources to question the legitimate right he would have to manage them by himself (?):
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Cuicui wrote:An intervention by President Chavez:
http://www.jp-petit.org/VIDEOS/Chavez/index.html
On the part of the leader of a country whose main revenue and political weight comes from the "PENSION" I find it quite swollen : Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

- it is not the one who - although knowing perfectly the aforesaid drifts (since he very hypocritically affirmed to Dedelco, "that they are part of the "real world"") would allow to wander around the "Free rein to entrepreneurship"?
- it is not the one who, although instrumentalizing the responses of others to use it, ...> now pretend to lecture us on what are (or are not) "good practices"?
- it is not finally, the one who when he runs out of argument, would question your integrity and would be ready to defame you?

If yes, I very much doubt that by playing it "black shirt", he is able to understand what a sense of responsibility is.
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by Gébé » 28/11/10, 18:20

Rest assured Obamot, the domination of "the West" is coming to an end, this civilization like all those that have preceded it in history has reached its peak and started its decline. The next one you seem to wish for will probably be much better : Wink:
Human nature, after millions of years of natural selection of gregarious and tribal mammals as noted by previous speakers, will probably not change anytime soon and you will not escape it either.
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by Cuicui » 28/11/10, 18:39

Gébé wrote:this civilization like all those which preceded it in the history reached its apogee and started its decline.

For you, moralization (attempt to correct the excesses and injustices of the current system) is synonymous with decline?
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by Gébé » 28/11/10, 18:43

I think the opposite
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by Cuicui » 28/11/10, 18:47

Gébé wrote:I think the opposite

Can you clarify the term "decline"?
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by chatelot16 » 28/11/10, 18:48

are we really in a capitalist society?

the basis of capitalism was the possibility for the industrialist who needs money to progress to ask for money from the one who has it, and who believes in his business, and to reward the one who gave this money with a cash partial ownership of the business! it worked

why doesn't it work anymore? because there is no longer a real shareholder really interested in the future of companies! the banks have ousted the shareholders ... the banks have turned them into small shareholders, which they lamentably defraud!

to make capitalism work it would be necessary that the shareholder put the banks in their place with loss and crash

or the government should really govern and not leave power to the banks

for me our current system is a caricature of capitalism as serious as the ussr was a caricature of communism

our economic system is dead ... what will happen to us?
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by Obamot » 28/11/10, 18:54

Akeukeu YES, with a "gregarious instinct", for sure you know Gébé:

Gébé wrote: [9/11...] the position of the US government is certainly the most reasonable [...]


Gébé wrote: the integrity of Christophe [...] What I meant is thatas a site administrator it does not have to be impartial [....]


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by sen-no-sen » 28/11/10, 18:56

chatelot16 wrote:are we really in a capitalist society?



Very just chatelot16, you have to call things by their names: in this case: the totalitarian merchant system.
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by Obamot » 28/11/10, 19:00

Cuicui wrote:
Gébé wrote:this civilization like all those which preceded it in the history reached its apogee and started its decline.

For you, moralization (attempt to correct the excesses and injustices of the current system) is synonymous with decline?

... you have to give him time to respond ... normal! : Mrgreen:
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by Gébé » 28/11/10, 19:02

Cuicui wrote:Can you clarify the term "decline"?

Well, I am not a historian or a philosopher but in the history of humanity there have always been civilizations which increased their development and their dominance until a time when they gradually disappeared to make way for other.
It is this last phase that I call decline.
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