Carbon tax in France, here we go again ... Ecolomania?

[pb2488]

Yes

[Christophe]

Well, if you have read in detail: I spoke more about the psychological aspect of the assistantship than economic?

Attention I am not against aids, I am against an excess of aids = systematic assistannat which plumb the market ...

[raymon]

I am for the carbon tax live gas oil to 2 euros by gradually increasing to be able to adapt but it would be necessary to compensate with a decline of the products of first necessity, develop the ecological bonus of the cars which consume the least, in financing a strong development of public transport ... it's all simple
1.5 t for displaced 80kg that she absurd idea even equipped with a pantone.

[Christophe]

Would Hulot be the true investigator of TC?

http://bit.ly/ROadX

Funny he wants to do econology, I quote:

He reads a lot and now wants to get his idea about economics: "Ecology, he says, I'm beginning to understand." In recent times, he has been consulting economist Bernard Lietaer, professor at Berkeley and former director of the Central Bank of Belgium, specialist in "alternative currencies".

[Dconomie]

"Anti carbon" tax. This is what it will be called from now on.

Too much com '!

And the petrolatum is taxed how much?

[Christophe]

It's more CCE? Really n'imp!

Vaseline? Well yes it should be taxed because of oil!

Well it's also called Jelly Oil I did not know! http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaseline

[Christophe]

Ah it was a long time: http://www.slate.fr/story/10947/non-la- ... at-energie

[Former Oceano]

A new layer, we apply the VAT on a tax, the carbon tax. And it seems that we will return this VAT? It's a big mammoth that we concoct ...

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Taxe carbone: l'Etat contredit l'UFC
AFP
08/10/2009 | Mise à jour : 17:38 | Commentaires  1 | Ajouter à ma sélection
Près de 500 millions d'euros prélevés par l'Etat au titre de la taxe carbone devraient rester "dans les caisses de l'Etat" du fait de la TVA perçue par la même occasion, a affirmé aujourd'hui UFC-Que Choisir. Le gouvernement a aussitôt démenti cette information, réaffirmant que "la taxe carbone sera intégralement compensée pour les ménages, TVA comprise".

Dans un communiqué, l'organisme de défense des consommateurs indique qu'avec la TVA appliquée à la taxe carbone sur les émissions polluantes, la tonne de CO2 ne coûterait plus 17 euros comme annoncé mais 20,3 euros, TVA comprise. Le montant de la taxe carbone restant à la chargé des ménages serait donc de 20 euros par an, selon lui.

"Le ministère des Finances a oublié de préciser que, comme toutes les taxes sur les énergies fossiles, la taxe carbone sera assujettie à la TVA (19,6%) et rapportera près de 500 M d'euros qui ne devraient pas être restitués aux consommateurs", écrit-il. Ainsi sur l'essence elle atteindrait une augmentation de 5 centimes et non 4 comme annoncé. "Un impact tout sauf marginal", conclut l'UFC.

Dans un communiqué commun, Jean-Louis Borloo, ministre du Développement durable, Christine Lagarde pour l'Économie et Éric Woerth pour le Budget, expliquent que "le produit de la taxe carbone sera de 4,1 milliards d’euros, dont 2,2 Mds seront acquittés par les ménages".  "Le montant de la compensation versée aux ménages sera très exactement égal au montant prélevé, soit 2,65 Mds d'euros, ainsi que l’indique l’évaluation préalable de la réforme rendue publique en même temps que le projet de loi de finances, disent-ils. L’Etat n’a donc pas l’intention de conserver les recettes de TVA induites par la mesure, mais de les redistribuer aux ménages au même titre que le produit de la taxe carbone."



source: Figaro

[Remundo]

New and unexpected ...

PARIS (AFP) - PARIS - Coup de theater Tuesday night:

the Constitutional Council canceled the carbon tax against global warming,

which was to come into force on January 1er, forcing the government to urgently introduce a replacement device.

Certainly the judges presided over by Jean-Louis Debré, seized on December 22 by the Socialist parliamentarians on the finance law for 2010, validated another essential provision: the reform of the business tax, which was welcomed by François Fillon.

They also approved the taxation of workers' compensation benefits.

But they have inflicted a blow to the government and Nicolas Sarkozy pushing, two days before its application and eleven days after the partial failure of the Copenhagen climate summit, the new tax to encourage households and industry to conserve energy.

The PS, at the origin of the referral, spoke of "a heavy defeat for the President of the Republic who was personally committed".

To explain his decision,he Council considered that the law created too many exemptions: "less than half of greenhouse gas emissions would have been subject to the carbon contribution".

Thus, "thermal power stations producing electricity, emissions from the 1.018 most polluting industrial sites" (refineries, cement works, coking plants, etc.), air and road passenger transport were totally exempt.

According to the Council, "93% of emissions of industrial origin, excluding fuel" have not been taxed.

The contribution would therefore "have focused primarily on fuels and heating products", deplored the Council.

The objective of "putting in place instruments enabling a significant reduction in greenhouse gas emissions" could not therefore be achieved. In addition, these exemptions "created a marked breach of equality" before tax.

The 7, 9, and 10 articles in the 2010 budget are no longer available.

The head of government immediately reacted, announcing that he would present on January 20 in the Council of Ministers a new device taking "fully into account the observations of the Constitutional Council".

No question of burying "a priority of the President of the Republic and the government", necessary "to guide the behavior of businesses and households in terms of energy consumption", judge Mr. Fillon.

He also noted that several exceptions denounced by the Council had been added "at the initiative of Parliament".

Nicolas Sarkozy had not hesitated to compare the creation of the carbon tax, widely rejected by the French according to the polls, to historical reforms such as the abolition of the death penalty.

Renamed "carbon contribution" by the Senate, the tax was initially set at 17 euros per tonne of carbon dioxide (CO2).

She had raised important disputes on the left - the socialist Ségolène Royal had indulged in August in La Rochelle to an indictment in good standing against it- but also on the right where some denounced a new tax.

The fixing of its amount had also created a tension between the two heads of the executive.

As for the Greens, they approved the principle of the tax, but judged its rate very insufficient to encourage virtuous behavior.

source

[bobono]

"good news for the French" Said N SARKOZI


"So this is good news for the French" AND for me.


No such tax