French public debt: Woerth VS F. de Closets

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by Christophe » 07/02/10, 12:12

Me too, we will see early next week if the blockage continues ... when a technician returns from weend. Because it is well known that France TV closes the weekend eh? : Cheesy:

The stream of the 1/02 broadcast works ... for example.
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by Christophe » 07/02/10, 13:10

Another passage from Jorion is available in this video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4h9u ... vient_news
(around 40%, the intro is a bit long)
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by sen-no-sen » 07/02/10, 17:59

Exciting videos!
I was recently listening to BFM radio, an economist said (and that sums up all the problems of our society): "countries must have more growth to repay their debts" ... : Lol:

Clearly "consumerism" and the consumer society are only the tools of "endless reimbursement" (in principle since Everything is limited).
It's like running after a mirage in the desert, the more you run, the more it goes away, and you end up dying of thirst ...
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by Christophe » 07/02/10, 18:51

I think the economist of BFM radio is just a con ...

Speaking of good videos on economics, finance and money, have you seen this one:
https://www.econologie.com/systeme-monet ... -3939.html
Debate: https://www.econologie.com/forums/qui-fabriq ... t6273.html

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by sen-no-sen » 07/02/10, 19:07

Of course!
It's the B a Ba to understand the economy!
it's weird that he doesn't explain this concept to "common people".
A bit like the tax rates on French multinationals, which pay less proportion than taxpayers.
If people were really aware of the system it wouldn't last long.
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by Christophe » 07/02/10, 19:10

This should be the DUTY of national education ... but is the purpose of education to bring down "the" system?

Not on the contrary ...
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by sen-no-sen » 07/02/10, 19:38

The system wants consumers.

Moreover, one has only to listen to the media to realize it, in the space of a few years the term consumers to eclipse the word customer (important nuance because "the customer is king" and the consumer is slave...).
Likewise for the standard of living, replacing with "purchasing power" ... that says a lot about the system.
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by pb2488 » 07/02/10, 22:36

sen-no-sen wrote:A bit like the tax rates on French multinationals, which pay less proportion than taxpayers.

It has never been established that there should be equality before public charges between industries and taxpayers. Faced with taxes, there is neither logic nor interest in putting industries on the same pedestal as individuals.
Industries pay taxes, individuals pay taxes, industries employ people, individuals benefit from taxes (directly or indirectly) ....
In addition, everything suggests that as the rich and the industries tend to flee from France and the poor come to take refuge there, Taxes must surely benefit the last cities.
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by dedeleco » 07/02/10, 23:04

Also read globally:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &themeId=2

Question: why with much lower debt in the 1920s inflation was hyper astronomical especially in Germany when now it remains low?
We may soon have this inflation then saved which can, especially avoid investments and loans in monkey money!
Some people are now buying gold without hesitation.
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by Christophe » 08/02/10, 11:02

pb2488 wrote:Industries pay taxes, individuals pay taxes, industries provide jobs for individuals, individuals benefit from taxes (directly or indirectly) ...


And the industries that benefit from taxes, should perhaps not be forgotten ... for example: industry benefits as much, if not more, from highways as individuals ...

Now yes "wealth" in the GDP sense of the definition is only created by companies ... and yes the tax on the income of an employee is an indirect tax on this wealth.

dedeleco, I think it's because precisely since 1929, we have put "safeguards" against inflation and that it would be much worse without ...

But inflation exists slowly but surely, I recently found an S&V from 1976, an advertisement presents a house at 150 francs and the average household income is given at 000 francs.

Obviously it has nothing to do with the case of Germany ... which used the "technique" of the ticket printing (which works but not very long!)

ps: the stream still does not work, we will see tomorrow morning if this evening's program will work ... if it does, censorship there has been ... and there it deserves to look at it .. .
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