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by antoinet111 » 06/12/11, 18:51

dedeleco, could you tell us what you did not understand in:
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Elephant: When it comes to identifying new ideas, just read the last line of each category.
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by the middle » 11/12/11, 09:13

indy49 wrote:Update of 06 / 12 / 11
(Edit = novelty underlined)

Water savings:

-recovery of rainwater (shower, toilet, machinery, ...)
-Recover cold water from the start of hot water in a bucket and use it for flushing or rinsing the sink.
-fans on faucet
-scale shower head
-Brick in the flush (or bottle)
-outhouse
-lave dishes (well filled)
-stop shower and mixer tap
-shower fast rather than bath
-pray in the garden in the summer so you do not have to shoot
- ...

Electricity savings:


-computer laptop (30watts) rather than big PC (200 watts on average)
-Management of the power of the big PCs
-Low consumption bulbs, fluorescent tubes placed lower and with a reflector, localized lighting
- rigorous management of the extinction of stores at 22 hours and signs
-insulation and programming (electric heating)
-automatic lighting delayed in certain rooms
-devices on standby to "turn off" (remote controlled sockets or multiple sockets with switch)
-dry linen outside rather than in the dryer
- rigorous management of the lighting in the offices (night extinction, ...)
-modification of corridor lighting (presence detector)
-better management and distribution of public lighting (I speak for the Belgian motorways, we come to it)
-recovery of the energy of fridges in supermarkets,
-confinement of the fridge zone (Colruyt already practices it in Belgium)
-on the old boilers: set a timer set to 1 / 4 hour on the circulator (on a total of 8760 hours per year, 80 Watt, significant saving)
-look out less bullshit on TV and make love + often
-Teach the children to turn off the lights and close the doors.
-wind turbines
solar hot water
-management of off-peak hours
-to reduce the electric subscription and use an offloader
-disconnect phone chargers
Fill the freezer as much as possible (even with water bottles)
- ...


Heating savings:

- electronic management - programming
-management of heating of public and industrial buildings
-modernization of the installations: high efficiency boilers
removal of heating corridors
-heating electric heater in the bathroom in 1 / 2 season in the bathroom
-electric booster heater when staying alone at the office during the day
-insulation
lowering of ceilings
-optimisation of the choice of his dwelling (type + location)
- geothermal energy
-solar
-wood (optimization of the yield: inverse fires, ...)
-sweater?!
has an airlock in front of the shops and in front of the houses
-veranda
-Turmount wall
-mount automatic door closers (cheap: 2 pitons, a string, a PET bottle filled with sand)
-diagnose a thermal diagnosis:
> thermal camera
> laser thermometer
> blower door (Blowerdoor, infiltrometry)
> ...
-connecting dishwasher and washing machine to the water heater
-isoler the hot water pipes
solar hot water
-fire ignition in top-down
-Silicon the doors and windows
-Improve the exchange of an insert blower
-thermostate the ventilation of the insert
- to make insulating curtains
- to make one's bread (or other) in winter: the energy consumed to bake the bread is also used to heat the house => optimal efficiency. In summer, buy your bread from the baker because it has a better yield than us (the heat is shared for all the breads)
- ...
Install a calorifier at the exit of the wood stove, either hot water or refractory bricks http://www.bouilleur.fr/
https://www.econologie.com/forums/recuperati ... t2974.html

Gas savings :

-use the microwave rather than the gas stove for his coffee (to see ...)
- wash your hands with cold water
-heating / isolation / etc ...
- domestic methanisation
solar hot water
- ...


Fuel savings:

-conduct smoothly
-apprehend the braking
-check the tire pressure
-better management of travel: reservations, shopping list, -phone, internet,
-4 X9 hours work week
-change of suppliers
-Regionalization of the tours, take his sandwiches
-use of public transport (school, work, ...)
-use of feet, bike, carpool
change of vehicle (old and economical, not new)
- to put the air conditioning less strong (23 ° in summer, 18 ° one catches colds)
-pantone
- magnets
-WITH
-water enrichment
-to make the parcel-parcel
- ...


Material savings:

-choice of strong and durable items
-house in recycled or ecological materials (straw, wood, ...)
paper recycling, installation of a photocopy box missed near the -photocopieuse
- regular attendance at the container park (recycling)
- diligent practice of sorting waste
- ...


Practical life :

ecological cleaners
-yogurt maker
-washable
washable protections or mooncups (menstrual cup silicone or rubber)
-washable
-steam cleaner
- Defrost freezer
-vegetable garden
drink the tap water
- ...


Tax savings:

-
- ...

Money savings:

- repair yourself, car, household appliances, ...
-make a neighborhood association to obtain a purchasing card in a wholesale store,
-Discuss around you to know the good plans of each
-remove body wipes, care, cleaning of toilets and floors
- smoke your food and prepare it yourself (pâté, sausages, ...)
- ...
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by the middle » 11/12/11, 09:22

I added two lines in heating savings :D
Too bad that no one followed my idea of ​​making a refractory brick box behind their stove as I did.
It has been working wonderfully for 5 years.
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by AXEAU » 11/12/11, 10:13

Hi just,

I did a little like you around my insert with hydraulic connection to the heated floor, it works very well and to please Dede I kept the size of my thuja to light the fire.

jlg
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by the middle » 11/12/11, 11:06

AXEAU wrote:Hi just,

I did a little like you around my insert with hydraulic connection to the heated floor, it works very well and to please Dede I kept the size of my thuja to light the fire.

jlg

Hello AXEAU,
If you have the time and the stuff, explain in more detail what you did.
These are the concrete experiences that strike the spirits :D
Maybe here: https://www.econologie.com/forums/recuperati ... t2974.html
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by dedeleco » 11/12/11, 15:37

lejustemilieu wrote:
indy49 wrote:Update of 06 / 12 / 11
(Edit = novelty underlined)

Water savings:

-recovery of rainwater (shower, toilet, machinery, ...)
-Recover cold water from the start of hot water in a bucket and use it for flushing or rinsing the sink.
-fans on faucet
-scale shower head
-Brick in the flush (or bottle)
-outhouse
-lave dishes (well filled)
-stop shower and mixer tap
-shower fast rather than bath
-pray in the garden in the summer so you do not have to shoot
- ...

Electricity savings:


-computer laptop (30watts) rather than big PC (200 watts on average)
-Management of the power of the big PCs
-Low consumption bulbs, fluorescent tubes placed lower and with a reflector, localized lighting
- rigorous management of the extinction of stores at 22 hours and signs
-insulation and programming (electric heating)
-automatic lighting delayed in certain rooms
-devices on standby to "turn off" (remote controlled sockets or multiple sockets with switch)
-dry linen outside rather than in the dryer
- rigorous management of the lighting in the offices (night extinction, ...)
-modification of corridor lighting (presence detector)
-better management and distribution of public lighting (I speak for the Belgian motorways, we come to it)
-recovery of the energy of fridges in supermarkets,
-confinement of the fridge zone (Colruyt already practices it in Belgium)
-on the old boilers: set a timer set to 1 / 4 hour on the circulator (on a total of 8760 hours per year, 80 Watt, significant saving)
-look out less bullshit on TV and make love + often
-Teach the children to turn off the lights and close the doors.
-wind turbines
solar hot water
-management of off-peak hours
-to reduce the electric subscription and use an offloader
-disconnect phone chargers
Fill the freezer as much as possible (even with water bottles)
a -One shower per month at 20 ° C as when you bathe in the sea.
- ...


Heating savings:

- electronic management - programming
-management of heating of public and industrial buildings
-modernization of the installations: high efficiency boilers
removal of heating corridors
-heating electric heater in the bathroom in 1 / 2 season in the bathroom
-electric booster heater when staying alone at the office during the day
-insulation
lowering of ceilings
-optimisation of the choice of his dwelling (type + location)
- geothermal energy
-a - true geothermal energy recovering heat from the ground more than 1km deep, very expensive.
a - geothermal energy (wrongly called geothermal energy) in fact Canadian well and PAC often quite expensive.
a -PV photovoltaic
a - geothermal energy a solar or Canadian solar well preheated in summer:
a -recover strong summer heat wasted or too much by storing it underground deep to heat the winter, as functional to www.dlsc.ca and achievable much simpler, with imagination for a low price, with unpretentious thermal solar collectors and simple 16mm drip pipe underground and under the sun. For totally free and perpetual use, without CO2; neither nuclear.
-solar
-wood (optimization of the yield: inverse fires, ...)
-sweater?!
a Do intense exercise every day (run over 200m of elevation gain) to be warm without heating any more, to be in better health and to resist colds and flu.
has an airlock in front of the shops and in front of the houses
-veranda
-Turmount wall
-mount automatic door closers (cheap: 2 pitons, a string, a PET bottle filled with sand)
-diagnose a thermal diagnosis:
> thermal camera
> laser thermometer
> blower door (Blowerdoor, infiltrometry)
> ...
-connecting dishwasher and washing machine to the water heater
-isoler the hot water pipes
solar hot water
-fire ignition in top-down
-Silicon the doors and windows
-Improve the exchange of an insert blower
-thermostate the ventilation of the insert
- to make insulating curtains
- to make one's bread (or other) in winter: the energy consumed to bake the bread is also used to heat the house => optimal efficiency. In summer, buy your bread from the baker because it has a better yield than us (the heat is shared for all the breads)
- ...
Install a calorifier at the exit of the wood stove, either hot water or refractory bricks http://www.bouilleur.fr/
https://www.econologie.com/forums/recuperati ... t2974.html
a - collect all the free wood and plants thrown around you, at the recycling center, even burnt by your neighbors who smoke you for whole days, dry them in the sun under unpretentious solar collector and heat with.
- to avoid having dioxins 100 times more, do not burn wood that has soaked in sea water on the beaches:

Gas savings :

-use the microwave rather than the gas stove for his coffee (to see ...)
- wash your hands with cold water
-heating / isolation / etc ...
- domestic methanisation
solar hot water
-... shower at 20 ° C one per month


Fuel savings:

-conduct smoothly
-apprehend the braking
-check the tire pressure
-better management of travel: reservations, shopping list, -phone, internet,
-4 X9 hours work week
-change of suppliers
-Regionalization of the tours, take his sandwiches
-use of public transport (school, work, ...)
-use of feet, bike, carpool
change of vehicle (old and economical, not new)
- to put the air conditioning less strong (23 ° in summer, 18 ° one catches colds)
-pantone
- magnets
-WITH
-water enrichment
-to make the parcel-parcel
- ...


Material savings:

-choice of strong and durable items
-house in recycled or ecological materials (straw, wood, ...)
paper recycling, installation of a photocopy box missed near the -photocopieuse
- regular attendance at the container park (recycling)
- diligent practice of sorting waste
- ...


Practical life :

ecological cleaners
-yogurt maker
-washable
washable protections or mooncups (menstrual cup silicone or rubber)
-washable
-steam cleaner
- Defrost freezer
-vegetable garden
drink the tap water
- ...


Tax savings:

- move to a town with low local taxes
- ...

Money savings:

- repair yourself, car, household appliances, ...
-make a neighborhood association to obtain a purchasing card in a wholesale store,
-Discuss around you to know the good plans of each
-remove body wipes, care, cleaning of toilets and floors
a and good for health with less harmful chemistry
- smoke your food
-heating with free reclaimed wood (except in seawater) pre-dried in the summer sun
a-prepare your own food (bread, cakes, pâté, sausages, vegetable garden)
- eat less excess meat often, better for health ...)


- ...
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by hedgehog » 11/03/12, 21:45

dedeleco wrote:
lejustemilieu wrote:
indy49 wrote:Update of 06 / 12 / 11
(Edit = novelty underlined)

Water savings:

-recovery of rainwater (shower, toilet, machinery, ...)
-Recover cold water from the start of hot water in a bucket and use it for flushing or rinsing the sink.
-fans on faucet
-scale shower head
-Brick in the flush (or bottle)
-outhouse
-lave dishes (well filled)
-stop shower and mixer tap
-shower fast rather than bath
-pray in the garden in the summer so you do not have to shoot
-If you plan to start with a thermostatic, and a foamer, so use about 50% of the flow required for the shower, and the shower is a little far from the boiler, reduce the water inlet diameter hot by 30%: we reduce the volume of water lost while waiting for the hot water to arrive without reducing comfort (and therefore reducing energy consumption)
- ...

Electricity savings:


-computer laptop (30watts) rather than big PC (200 watts on average)
-Management of the power of the big PCs
-Low consumption bulbs, fluorescent tubes placed lower and with a reflector, localized lighting
- rigorous management of the extinction of stores at 22 hours and signs
-insulation and programming (electric heating)
-automatic lighting delayed in certain rooms
-devices on standby to "turn off" (remote controlled sockets or multiple sockets with switch)
-dry linen outside rather than in the dryer
- rigorous management of the lighting in the offices (night extinction, ...)
-modification of corridor lighting (presence detector)
-better management and distribution of public lighting (I speak for the Belgian motorways, we come to it)
-recovery of the energy of fridges in supermarkets,
-confinement of the fridge zone (Colruyt already practices it in Belgium)
-on the old boilers: set a timer set to 1 / 4 hour on the circulator (on a total of 8760 hours per year, 80 Watt, significant saving)
-look out less bullshit on TV and make love + often
-Teach the children to turn off the lights and close the doors.
-wind turbines
solar hot water
-management of off-peak hours
-to reduce the electric subscription and use an offloader
-disconnect phone chargers
Fill the freezer as much as possible (even with water bottles)
a -One shower per month at 20 ° C as when you bathe in the sea.
- ...


Heating savings:

- electronic management - programming
-management of heating of public and industrial buildings
-modernization of the installations: high efficiency boilers
removal of heating corridors
-heating electric heater in the bathroom in 1 / 2 season in the bathroom
-electric booster heater when staying alone at the office during the day
-insulation
lowering of ceilings
-optimisation of the choice of his dwelling (type + location)
- geothermal energy
-a - true geothermal energy recovering heat from the ground more than 1km deep, very expensive.
a - geothermal energy (wrongly called geothermal energy) in fact Canadian well and PAC often quite expensive.
a -PV photovoltaic
a - geothermal energy a solar or Canadian solar well preheated in summer:
a -recover strong summer heat wasted or too much by storing it underground deep to heat the winter, as functional to www.dlsc.ca and achievable much simpler, with imagination for a low price, with unpretentious thermal solar collectors and simple 16mm drip pipe underground and under the sun. For totally free and perpetual use, without CO2; neither nuclear.
-solar
-wood (optimization of the yield: inverse fires, ...)
-sweater?!
a Do intense exercise every day (run over 200m of elevation gain) to be warm without heating any more, to be in better health and to resist colds and flu.
has an airlock in front of the shops and in front of the houses
-veranda
-Turmount wall
-mount automatic door closers (cheap: 2 pitons, a string, a PET bottle filled with sand)
-diagnose a thermal diagnosis:
> thermal camera
> laser thermometer
> blower door (Blowerdoor, infiltrometry)
> ...
-connecting dishwasher and washing machine to the water heater
-isoler the hot water pipes
solar hot water
-fire ignition in top-down
-Silicon the doors and windows
-Improve the exchange of an insert blower
-thermostate the ventilation of the insert
- to make insulating curtains
- to make one's bread (or other) in winter: the energy consumed to bake the bread is also used to heat the house => optimal efficiency. In summer, buy your bread from the baker because it has a better yield than us (the heat is shared for all the breads)
- ...
Install a calorifier at the exit of the wood stove, either hot water or refractory bricks http://www.bouilleur.fr/
https://www.econologie.com/forums/recuperati ... t2974.html
a - collect all the free wood and plants thrown around you, at the recycling center, even burnt by your neighbors who smoke you for whole days, dry them in the sun under unpretentious solar collector and heat with.
- to avoid having dioxins 100 times more, do not burn wood that has soaked in sea water on the beaches:

Gas savings :

-use the microwave rather than the gas stove for his coffee (to see ...)
- wash your hands with cold water
-heating / isolation / etc ...
- domestic methanisation
solar hot water
-... shower at 20 ° C one per month


Fuel savings:

-conduct smoothly
-apprehend the braking
-check the tire pressure
-better management of travel: reservations, shopping list, -phone, internet,
-4 X9 hours work week
-change of suppliers
-Regionalization of the tours, take his sandwiches
-use of public transport (school, work, ...)
-use of feet, bike, carpool
change of vehicle (old and economical, not new)
- to put the air conditioning less strong (23 ° in summer, 18 ° one catches colds)
-pantone
- magnets
-WITH
-water enrichment
-to make the parcel-parcel
- ...


Material savings:

-choice of strong and durable items
-house in recycled or ecological materials (straw, wood, ...)
paper recycling, installation of a photocopy box missed near the -photocopieuse
- regular attendance at the container park (recycling)
- diligent practice of sorting waste
- ...


Practical life :

ecological cleaners
-yogurt maker
-washable
washable protections or mooncups (menstrual cup silicone or rubber)
-washable
-steam cleaner
- Defrost freezer
-vegetable garden
drink the tap water
- ...


Tax savings:

- move to a town with low local taxes
- ...

Money savings:

- repair yourself, car, household appliances, ...
-make a neighborhood association to obtain a purchasing card in a wholesale store,
-Discuss around you to know the good plans of each
-remove body wipes, care, cleaning of toilets and floors
a and good for health with less harmful chemistry
- smoke your food
-heating with free reclaimed wood (except in seawater) pre-dried in the summer sun
a-prepare your own food (bread, cakes, pâté, sausages, vegetable garden)
- eat less excess meat often, better for health ...)


- ...
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by Christophe » 18/03/12, 08:36

I will synthesize this subject and integrate it into the informative part of the site with links to this subject
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by the middle » 18/03/12, 08:57

Good idea, it's a great post.
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by dedeleco » 18/03/12, 12:28

Christophe wrote:I will synthesize this subject and integrate it into the informative part of the site with links to this subject

yes, but big work of synthesis of the site, requested by some, to allow to quickly locate on the essential and the advice and practical info easy to find.
There are different levels, simple for the ignorant, technique without preliminary knowledge, and complex for complete calculations, of exact engineering, to avoid unnecessary tests and reinvent what others have discovered before (wind turbines, exchangers, pressure losses, soundproofing, heat loss, etc.). For example a color to indicate the difficulty.

The site would gain in attractiveness as well, but it is a very big job, given the extent of the information scattered in remarks and even unnecessary conflicts.
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