The best absolute energy!

[renaud67]

i think the person to be fired from this forum is not necessarily those of the wishes of Mr. or Mrs. less watt, which we would like to await the proposals to spend less watt more than these incessant harsh and peremptory critical reviews very painful

[FPLM]

That slab, simply, it is a real solution for the future without CO2, without pollution, without nuclear, without consumption, for perpetuity, for our children and the planet !!
It's so great that we have to develop it completely !!
And incredible, even environmentalists do not know it or have not understood it !!

Uh, sorry?
I am an ecologist and a radical (permacultor). I know this principle of thermal phase shift and know much more of its application than the storage of calories from the sun.
Indeed, it is an excellent idea that I also defend but it is not necessarily THE solution. Conformism and unification is a bad idea. Each solution closely depends on the conditions of the context: geographic location, resources, ...
Where I get upset is that you put all the green in one basket.
That said, I grant you that this solution must be studied to apply wherever it can but I think that faced with your insistence on this subject you will arouse more weariness than infatuation.

[FPLM]

Bleusideral advice, do not project yourself too much into the dreamlike delusions of free energies, zero point, etc. because the return to earth risks being brutal. Save yourself this trouble.
Follow Ahmed's reflection on energy abundance as a source of problems, in my humble opinion, he can see clearly.
It's worth what it's worth, but this is the advice I want to give you.

[bleusideral]

Thank you, any advice is appreciated or appreciable, it all depends on how we understand it
often remains the realization of these solutions
where my approach via this post is precisely to know experiences in the different areas, even applications
-who has experienced what and how, what results ...
-example the storage of heat energy ... for my part based on Canadian stoves with slow combustion but not having one, I improved my classic stove of 11 kw: direct air intake from the crawl space (10-13 °) directly below the appliance, installation of refractory bricks behind the stove and at the height of the latter around the smoke pipe for a heat restored at night, with vmc in insulated sheathed ceiling in the attic to distribute in the other more distant rooms, an ECOFAN placed on the cast iron stove = saving 30% in wood consumption .... this seems trivial as an example, but it is a principle that develops like so many others and whose j would like to hear other examples or concrete studies for this debate, and share ideas ...
any ideas are good to take this is once again what I wanted to hear develop!

[dedeleco]

Dreamers like DreamWheel are unable to understand the interest and simplicity of www.dlsc.ca , free renewable energy of 1KW per m2 in perpetuity, which really works, very simple, without needing to question the physics proven by the reality observed in our TVs, mobiles, TGV, clocks, like DreamWheel dreams of doing.

Finally this year 2011 in France was very hot 13,6 ° C average spontaneously stored in the ground (hottest year in a very long time) and therefore very little extra summer heat is needed to make the 20 ° C necessary in winter in our homes !!
This is the basic principle of www.dlsc.ca uktra simple very real !!

Why make it simple, when you can make it complicated to pleasure, for a millennium more in dreams without ever succeeding in making these inconsistencies work, like DreamWheel.

The improved heat exchanger stove (often missing), with a storage mass (at least 1 ton for 12 to 24 hours, even in free soil) is a very good simple solution !!!

But don't forget that you have at 3m free underground 13,6 ° C perpetual 365 days a year, usable without heat pump, and easy to preheat in summer to more than 20 ° C, with sun on unpretentious, ultra simple solar collectors, hose cheap in the sun, (like on APPER and used by Forhorse on econology) to have it in winter !!

And then no more chore of wood, more sweeping, more pollution by incomplete combustion or free wood (with sea salt which makes dioxin everywhere on all the coasts of France), no more heat pump out, total peace of mind.

[Ahmed]

The improved heat exchanger stove, (often missing), with a storage mass ...

It is very true, the improvements mainly related to the combustion but little on the exchange surface and the inertia (complicates the life of the seller, probably).

[bleusideral]

actually a shame, but this is certainly due to the handling and volume that it represents

but individually achievable at low cost, the most expensive can be the refractory bricks, unless you "recover" old electric storage heaters (which I did for my part)

this concept of Canadian houses is simply great, apart from the investment cost, free energy is there and well exploited, for life.

good example of realization where one could think before the construction of a house, with a simpler individual system of course. many houses are now taking up the principle of Canadian wells with a system of buried coils ... the earth and the sun, an inexhaustible source of absolute energy!

https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... efvVy3.pdf

[FPLM]

Unequivocal answer or discussion given how the title is formulated!

The best absolute energy is obviously LOVE !!

Friend of poetry hello.
I would say life and love its vector ...

[sen-no-sen]

That slab, simply, it is a real solution for the future without CO2, without pollution, without nuclear, without consumption, for perpetuity, for our children and the planet !!
It's so great that we have to develop it completely !!
And incredible, even environmentalists do not know it or have not understood it !!

Uh, sorry?
I am an ecologist and a radical (permacultor). I know this principle of thermal phase shift and know much more of its application than the storage of calories from the sun.
Indeed, it is an excellent idea that I also defend but it is not necessarily THE solution. Conformism and unification is a bad idea.

Indeed the solution of Déde although excellent is only one means like another to be heated, that will not help us much to propel a train ...

Regarding the notion of "empty" energy, this often remains the domain of scam, at best a dream, and as Ahmed mentioned it would be catastrophic to have unlimited energy available (= unlimited destruction) .

The solutions to produce energy for all without destroying the ecosystems exist, the problem is that the philosophy to manage all this hardly interests the ruling class.

At the present time, renewable energies have become a flying buttress to fossil and nuclear energy and only reinforce the trend of ever more, under an apparent harmlessness.
We must not forget that renewable energies are a way and not one but.

[FPLM]

Besides, renewable energies are often sidelined for their inability to generate as much energy as petroleum or nuclear power allow us to waste.
We should rather promote them for their ability to open our eyes to our endless greed!