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by elephant » 30/03/08, 18:01

Indy 49 said:

It's shameful on the part of HP not to put this systematically.
Probably to sell more Evil or Very Mad cartridges


+1

and again, HP is certainly not the most dishonest. Lexmark is worse: they have models where there is a chip in the cartridge to prevent it from being refilled!

That said, when you consider the price of a printer, you understand that they want to make a living! :D
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by bamboo » 30/03/08, 18:37

elephant wrote:and again, HP is certainly not the most dishonest. Lexmark is worse: they have models where there is a chip in the cartridge to prevent it from being refilled!

: Evil:

elephant wrote:That said, when you consider the price of a printer, you understand that they want to make a living! :D


Yeah finally they are the ones who set the price of the printers ... And they deliberately sell them at a loss, because they know they will make wheat with the cartridges ... (and that people look at the price of the printer, not cartridge ...)
So I won't complain about them ...
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by elephant » 30/03/08, 23:07

on the other hand the "good" buyers of the companies make this calculation, and it is even an argument for the high speed printers.
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by Hydraxon » 30/03/08, 23:44

Hey, with some printers under MacOS 9, there was a "use only color cartridge" mode.

But there is no worse question mess of cartridges. 3 inks for what black ink does alone ... Better to buy a printer with separate cartridges.

Anecdote: a color laser printer from I don't remember which brand had been so sold that companies that did not need new printers bought 10 at once ... It was sold full cartridges for less than a cartridge kit.
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by boblebricoleur » 31/03/08, 00:34

Some time ago I read an article in the world called "ink more expensive than caviar"
He had done the calculation and the ink returned to 1800 € per liter : Shock: no, no 1800 : Shock: : Shock:
At 5-6 cts the photo in 11 * 15 on super paper, I remain photo lab + laser printer
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by Hydraxon » 31/03/08, 00:38

On the other hand, calculating the price per liter does not necessarily make sense since ideally, we would only put one atom of thickness on a sheet.
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by boblebricoleur » 31/03/08, 01:18

I agree on the quantity but the article and therefore the remark (1.800 € - 12.000frs per liter) was mainly intended to show their profit margin.
At this price how much would our favorite magazines cost?
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by Cuicui » 31/03/08, 10:03

boblebricoleur wrote:Some time ago I read an article in the world called "ink more expensive than caviar"
He had done the calculation and the ink returned to 1800 € per liter : Shock: no, no 1800 : Shock: : Shock:

Uh, in trade, bulk ink is around € 100 per liter.
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by Christophe » 31/03/08, 10:33

1)
boblebricoleur wrote:I have a good one : Cheesy: buy a laser printer.


There are small B&W for less than 100 € now ...
In color for less than 150 € ...

Frankly I hesitate ...

In any case I uninstalled the HP because their software is big spyware from me * from ...

Do you know how much your cost per page is with a small laser?

2) For the cost of the ink it is possible, 40 € for 20 ml is good 2000 € per liter ...

2 examples found on the net:

Type: Original Cartridge
Black color
Capacity: 10ml
Brand cartridge: HP C8727A - HP n ° 27

Ink cartridge, Original cartridge - HP - Black - C8727A - N ° 27

Price: 19.00 € TTC (€ 15.89 excl.


-> 19.00 / 0.01 = 1900 € / L

Original Cartridge - HP - 3 colors - C8728A - N ° 28

Type: Recycled cartridge
Color: 3 colors
Capacity: 8ml
Brand Cartridge: HP C8728A - HP n ° 28 Ink cartridge, Original Cartridge - HP - 3 colors - C8728A - N ° 28
Ink cartridge, Original cartridge - HP - 3 colors - C8728A - N ° 28

Price: 19.99 € TTC (€ 16.71 excl.


-> 19.99 / 0.008 = 2500 € / L

Pkoi do you think we find printers at 50 €?

The sales "approach" of cartridge and printer sellers is the same as that of oil and car sellers ... even worse for printers, a first-price printer will cost you 1 to 10 times its purchase price in use ....

But by the way: what are you using your printer for? Because we, except for the shop (invoice, administrative ...) the use is rather rare ...
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by Christophe » 31/03/08, 10:54

Hydraxon wrote:On the other hand, calculating the price per liter does not necessarily make sense since ideally, we would only put one atom of thickness on a sheet.


Uh ideally ... but in practice?
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