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by Christophe » 28/01/08, 13:36

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by delnoram » 28/01/08, 16:24

HS last here promised

jean63 wrote:I should have written "lost" ......... :?

It is not false :D

jean63 wrote:As for the ortho of lost or headed ... so there is no ortho? origin?


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Definition: Larousse wrote : headed, headed
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Said of a plant whose leaves are gathered so as to form an apple: Cabbage.


Definition: Larousse wrote :lost, lost
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Popular. Person who is or feels completely lost, who is unsuited to reality, to society.
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by Remundo » 01/02/08, 00:40

Rrrrrooooo ... But !!!!

Let my friend Jean63 who likes apples : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
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by jean63 » 01/02/08, 00:47

Remundo wrote:Rrrrrooooo ... But !!!!

Let my friend Jean63 who likes apples : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

And what's more it's true !! although I am "lost" : Lol:

Have you watched Inra Rouge on FR2 on the very wealthy who expatriate to Belgium and Morocco?

I'm going to ask Christophe if he knows Kortrijk (ortho?) On the Franco-Belgian border not far from his home, where the Millionaires Fair takes place + the Mulier family (Auchan) who lives in Belgium so as not to pay the French wealth tax and other taxes ...... and all the others in Brussels or Luxembourg.

And the one who manufactures his luxury boats in Morocco because cheap and very docile manpower ........ and the other who buys him to resell more expensive secondhand and buy another more beautiful and bigger ....

Poor France : Shock:
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by Remundo » 01/02/08, 12:26

Hi Jean,

No, I did not watch. But I had already seen a report of the same kind where the Belgians complained of the surge created by the flow of French millionaires settling at all costs in Belgium. Average natives could no longer find accommodation ...

But you know, on this subject, we tend to cast a shame on "the rich". By force, all the capital flees the country. And this capital, normally, should be reinvested IN the country to create jobs for the "less rich".

I saw this morning that TSONGA is domiciled in Switzerland. All the big bosses and sportsmen are in Switzerland. Tsonga is adulated yet, "we" love him ... well he is destroying jobs, certainly a small drop of water, but by force, it creates a torrent whose source is in France ...

It is not about loving, hating or judging the wealthy. Some, and even many, have become so through their work and their business, which has supported many of their compatriots. Others are inherited ... and often pursue management by creating activities ... and therefore an economic life.

It is about getting them "the rich" to collaborate with the less rich on the SAME boat, France, which has been rocking dangerously for a long time ...

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by jean63 » 01/02/08, 15:30

Hi Remundo,

All right for these wealthy French expatriates to continue to invest and create jobs in France, but it is they who decide. In the lot, there is one who lives in Belgium and who has continued to invest in France and created jobs instead of giving money in taxes for 20 years, he said.

What displeases them is that the state "wastes" their money on civil servants. Of course there is some cleaning to be done in public spending in France, but we must recognize that our social system is also envied by many countries.

How to do it: lower taxes and employers' levies on wages? lower professional taxes for companies?

It should also be noted that there are 7 million people below the poverty line in France.

Ajd the cashiers of the hyper markets are on strike. I still think it's justified; they have been exploited while the bosses (Mulier family among others) are making gigantic profits.
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by Remundo » 01/02/08, 17:40

And yes, the exploitation of man by man is as old as humanity. I believe that all this can only evolve with great difficulty because this pattern of thought is deeply rooted in human psychology. Only technical progress limits this serious drift which led to slavery, among others.

On this subject, there is a joke :P

An American boss explains to a Russian boss:

"with us all the creation of wealth is based on the exploitation of man by man"

The Russian replied:

"Ahhh ... you Americans, you do anything ... with us it's the opposite !!!"

Here, here :P
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by Christophe » 01/02/08, 17:42

Remundo wrote:And yes, the exploitation of man by man is as old as humanity.


Mmmm that is discussed ...

On the other hand the exploitation of woman by man this one is as old as humanity !
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by Remundo » 01/02/08, 22:03

If Christine is going to moderate this subject, watch out for yourself : Mrgreen:
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by nightrow » 01/02/08, 22:29

In my opinion we spin a bad cotton anyway ...

The question of "purchasing power" does not arise as it arises today because it reflects the state of society: torn towards consumption and excessive surplus.

In general, the people who feel they do not have enough purchasing power are largely those who already have LCD TVs and complain about not being able to buy a 4x4 like the neighbor ...

We must be aware that we have never had such a high "leisure, superfluous and other" budget. Now buying a TV, a telephone, is within the reach of the first comer, it suffices to look back a few decades to see the difference.

People have a constantly declining food budget in proportion to their income, "thanks" to hardiscount among other things, and I can't think of that to be a good thing (when I see the contents of their plate).

We are in any case on a company where only appearance counts, the bottom has been in the trash for a long time. For example, offer more purchasing power to many people, and watch who will take advantage of it to eat healthy for example, and see what proportion will take advantage of it to buy a larger or other TV (while complaining about the quality of the food).

I have very little confidence in the capacity that people would have to be more citizens and respectful of themselves (which seems an objective much more laudable than the increase in purchasing power) and of nature with more money than without. The important thing is to be CONsomateur anyway, as radio, TV, etc. keep reminding us.

In short, I get lost, but to say that I have little confidence in the future is very little ... (Man's capacity to live at the expense of his ecosystem has always impressed me)
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