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Re: The industrial obsolescence, history of deception




by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 29/09/17, 21:22

Did67 wrote:What surprises me is that no manufacturer takes this trend against the grain by presenting a simple model, with a soft battery, changeable with a simple click-clack. For all those who get put every two years gave. Are we so minority that it does not even make a niche market ???


But if it exists and for years.

I only put the photo of the big one but I have a means and a small one and it's the same ....

We just open a clipped back side that opens with a nail stroke, we remove the battery and put the new one and presto we left for a ride ....
Of course, doing this with an iphone is not the same music Image

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Re: The industrial obsolescence, history of deception




by Christophe » 29/09/17, 21:24

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Christophe wrote:Advertising for innovative eco-friendly things is tolerated here ...



Of which act, here I am released!


Well, it's even advisable to talk about innovations for econology (via a new subject for example ...)
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Re: The industrial obsolescence, history of deception




by Did67 » 29/09/17, 22:00

sicetaitsimple wrote:I don't know how to interpret your answer? Critical or on the contrary happy?



It's amazing what a French expression can be bivalent.

I was in the spirit of Christophe.
In full, I should have written;

"Of course, you quoted it without having in mind to advertise.

But at the same time, wouldn't it be nice to advertise them a bit. "
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by Christophe » 29/09/17, 22:02

nico239 wrote:But if it exists and for years.

I only put the photo of the big one but I have a means and a small one and it's the same ....


Could you measure the charging voltage on these chargers please?

On the tests that I am doing, when I plug the phone into a usb without battery I only have 1.7V of charging voltage and it is not logical (probably because it misses the BSI ... the connector battery center)

And on the battery it is indicated a "thing in Chinese" (therefore incomprehensible): 4,35V

4,35V is a lot for a charging voltage, normally we advise not to exceed 4,2V

After verification, Samsung greatly exceeds this value, example with the S7 charging at 4,4V https://qnovo.com/90-charging-galaxy-s7/
So 4,35V must be the charge voltage in my case.

How much is it for you?
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by Did67 » 29/09/17, 22:06

nico239 wrote:
But if it exists and for years.

I only put the photo of the big one but I have a means and a small one and it's the same ....

We just open a clipped back side that opens with a nail stroke, we remove the battery and put the new one and presto we left for a ride ....
Of course, doing this with an iphone is not the same music Image



Ah OK. We all have low cost in the family. I did not know that Samsung had maintained this particularity. I thought that "competing" with Apple, they had adopted the same flaws, to make it "as chic".

On my old ACER at less than 100 €, this is also the case. But it must be recognized that it has a deplorable screen, in full light (not in full sun), I see nothing! There, it is sure that normally you change after 2 years. Disgusted! (except me, who use a laptop essentially as a mobile messenger ...). I spent 50 years without knowing what a laptop is. I'm going to be able to do another century with a crappy laptop. Strangely, the battery that I mistreat (as a general rule, I find it completely discharged, having forgotten it somewhere!), Resists valiantly! Maybe because it is interchangeable?
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Re: The industrial obsolescence, history of deception




by sicetaitsimple » 29/09/17, 22:11

Did67 wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:I don't know how to interpret your answer? Critical or on the contrary happy?



It's amazing what a French expression can be bivalent.

I was in the spirit of Christophe.
In full, I should have written;

"Of course, you quoted it without having in mind to advertise.

But at the same time, wouldn't it be nice to advertise them a bit. "


OK, I thought it was rather that but actually I had a slight doubt.

Well, here, all that to say that there are indeed boxes that launch into this niche without it being recovery, recycling, which is another niche just as honorable, we will wish them success.
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Re: The industrial obsolescence, history of deception




by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 30/09/17, 01:12

Christophe wrote:Could you measure the charging voltage on these chargers please?


Is that okay with you?

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 30/09/17, 01:14

Did67 wrote:
Ah OK. We all have low cost in the family. I did not know that Samsung had maintained this particularity. I thought that "competing" with Apple, they had adopted the same flaws, to make it "as chic".

On my old ACER at less than 100 €, this is also the case. But it must be recognized that it has a deplorable screen, in full light (not in full sun), I see nothing! There, it is sure that normally you change after 2 years. Disgusted! (except me, who use a laptop essentially as a mobile messenger ...). I spent 50 years without knowing what a laptop is. I'm going to be able to do another century with a crappy laptop. Strangely, the battery that I mistreat (as a general rule, I find it completely discharged, having forgotten it somewhere!), Resists valiantly! Maybe because it is interchangeable?


You find used mega 6.3 almost everywhere at an affordable price and as it is a big phone the battery is in unison and lasts a long time ... : Idea:
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by Christophe » 30/09/17, 02:57

nico239 wrote:Is that okay with you?


Perfect thank you, so it's also 4.35V ...

And if I read correctly, you can power it with 2 different amperages (USB?) Or then there is a switch?
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 30/09/17, 15:59

It's a USB and electrical outlet, you want the photo?
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