Ifixit: can't you fix it? You don't own it!

[bernardd]

Yes, these OSs that change with each new generation, it's a bit as if each time you change your car you have to pass both your driving license and that of a mechanic.

But since we tell you that this corresponds to your need!

It may be shit, it's bad for everything you want, but if it sells it's because it meets a need.

Or not ?

[Forhorse]

You live a little too much with the bisounours guys.
The standards, whatever they are, in your opinion they are dictated by whom?
Who dictates the standards to the bodies responsible for publishing them?
Like it or not, there is always a big loby behind each standard or each standard, and it is always the big one with lots of cash who dictates his way of doing things to the little ones without power.
And even at the time for the standardization of technical drawing, to use the example given, there were obviously some big manufacturers behind.

We should also avoid confining ourselves to the current situation and review the complete history of IT ... it is not very old, however, barely 30 years.
When Microsoft was created, they encountered big IBM kind, and yet they knew how to offer and sell software (rots or not, that's not the question) which we found a public and therefore a market, where the others, however, technologically and commercially more advanced, offered nothing.
It's easy now to complain that MS dominates everything, where were the others when the first version of Office was released? Why didn't they offer better?
Why did Unix stay in universities and on servers when DOS was installed in all offices?
Why OS / 2 has been abandoned?
Why have macs never had a larger market share (and ultimately became PCs running unix ...)?

And then the file formats are not so opaque and locked as that, you frankly lack objectivity.
MS Office files can easily be opened (and saved) with OpenOffice (free office suite) and I think that if Microsoft did not allow this kind of use of their format they would have sued Sun a long time ago.
We can also take the example of PDF, which must be the most universal computer format currently, which is originally a paid thing from Adobbe and can now be generated by dozens and dozens of third-party software.
We can also more simply take the example of file formats like JPEG, or MP3

To hear you, you would believe religious fundamentalists ready to go on a crusade.

[Obamot]

After what follows, you will realize that "The religious integrist" it's you: with "Bill Gates" as a deity

You live a little too much with the bisounours guys.
The standards, whatever they are, in your opinion they are dictated by whom?
Who dictates the standards to the bodies responsible for publishing them?
Like it or not, there is always a big loby behind each standard or each standard, and it is always the big one with lots of cash who dictates his way of doing things to the little ones without power.
And even at the time for the standardization of technical drawing, to use the example given, there were obviously some big manufacturers behind.

Too strong ... after explaining to us that if it worked it was because "It corresponded to a need", we pass after the big flop ...

Isn't it that on the same "tone" we would like to explain to us "how it works!" hi, hi hi ...

We should also avoid confining ourselves to the current situation and review the complete history of IT ... it is not very old, however, barely 30 years.
When Microsoft was created, they encountered big IBM kind

Very wrong!!! (And if I did not hold back, because it is too much, I would say: moron and imbecile) That claims to teach us the lesson with a pseudo "history of microcomputing" by daring to say that Microsoft "ran into IBM!" I've heard it in my life, and I usually wear gloves ... but this is just nonsense!

Bill Gates at the time did not encounter anything at all. He didn't have a round! He wouldn't have been anyone WITHOUT HIS CONTRACT WITH IBM. It only benefits from its base installed since that time, nothing more: dot bar.

At the time IBM was looking for an operating system for the microphone because they felt the wind coming. The anecdote wants that Bill Gates who was always a big opportunist, had vaguely heard of an OS (relatively badly fucked up) that a type had developed. While he was not yet its owner at all, he went to sell the concept of this product “to the breath” at IBM, which signed to implement it in all their machines. Then on the basis of this deception, they went to finish his poker game with the guy in question (Tim Paterson) by snatching his OS for a sum around 50 dollars! While he was entitled to royalties from the big blue which made him one of the biggest fortunes in the world. We see there all the profile of the predator with the most unfair and execrable sense of business that is ... After no wonder with such practices that some make a fortune ... It does not make me want to be in their place with their Machiavellian spirit ...

The m ... e he bought was called QDOS which means Quick-and-dirty Operating System, or "Fast and dirty (quickly, poorly done) operating system, which he renamed MS-DOS." So if being on the side of "Kiss" is to fight against that ... I want to be there ...

It proves that you have no computer culture at that time and that you only tell us about ducks.

But all the better if it all suits you, don't just ask us to believe you or join ...

and yet they were able to offer and sell software (rots or not, that's not the issue) which we found a public and therefore a market, where the others, however technologically and commercially more advanced, offered nothing.

Indefensible, vain pirouette to try to get out of where you are completely locked up!

It's easy now to complain that MS dominates everything, where were the others when the first version of Office was released? Why didn't they offer better?

But if they did, sorry for the dropped ollibrius who saw nothing. Besides, every time there was something threatening, 'Crosoft has pumped! Chaining trial after trial and going to be seriously taxed for his commercial practices, deemed unfair, especially in Europe for abuse of a dominant position.

Why did Unix stay in universities and on servers when DOS was installed in all offices?

Easy to answer: if Unix has remained in the universities, it is proof that this system was better, and it is not by proposing a heavy and ramshackle pseudo-unix that 'Crosoft will manage to impose itself for a long time to come. .. among those who are looking for solutions that "really work".

Besides, Apple has for the first time gone beyond the "dark side ..." (ie obscurantist => fundamentalist ... joke inside!)

Why have macs never had a larger market share (and ultimately became PCs running unix ...)?

Do not insist ... What is Unix on PC? You say yourself that ... it's Mac (although there is still Unix and FreeBSD as the friends recalled), so you ignore the vain attempts of the big Bill in this area: lamentable!

And then the file formats are not so opaque and locked as that, you frankly lack objectivity.

You sell sins, right?
The more your answers advance, the more we measure the monumental sheepmaking of the reasoning behind it.

MS Office files can easily be opened (and saved) with OpenOffice (free office suite) and I think that if Microsoft did not allow this kind of use of their format they would have sued Sun a long time ago.

Mwouahahahaha, do you want counterexamples? There are shovels! Nimportenawak!

We can also take the example of PDF, which must be the most universal computer format currently, which is originally a paid thing from Adobbe and can now be generated by dozens and dozens of third-party software.

Pfiouuuuu! Adobe the most open format? While it is the box that has the best and most locked in its proprietary format which is PostScript !!! Ah, ah ah ....

We can also more simply take the example of file formats like JPEG, or MP3

If we were talking about rotten and "destructive" file formats ... What a big laugh !!! Mixing a “perfect” computer format file (the PostScript vectors) with destructive file formats ... by relying on the fact that they would be “universal” ... we think we are dreaming!

To hear you, you would believe religious fundamentalists ready to go on a crusade.

Oh yes, I'm going to add that you had better stop talking about all this, because you just don't know what you're talking about, what you are telling us is personal interpretation it's completely false and archivist.

Do not see anything personal, but it was so huge, could not help it ... especially should not post this kind of delirium in such a thread.

[chatelot16]

We can also take the example of PDF, which must be the most universal computer format currently, which is originally a paid thing from Adobbe and can now be generated by dozens and dozens of third-party software.

pdf is a very special case: completely proprietary but not closed: well documented so that other software can make good pdf!

free reader to make sure anyone in the world reads the pdf you did the same

a pdf database is postscript: a very smart system that cannot be undone in printing, well used without telling anyone inside other software: postscript is not just a file format, it is a computer language: the forth, just with different notation: a postscript file is not a simple data file, it is a program whose execution makes the drawing ... poscript could be the file format of a CAD software

pdf is not just postscript: it can package all kinds of other image formats

but adope pdf has just been bought by microsoft: there is a big danger that pdf will lose its quality like everything that microsoft buys ...

[renaud67]

Hello,
I have a water heater ... which does not heat any more how to know if the thermostat type TSE of COTHERM works?.
Thank you
@+

[chatelot16]

At the time IBM was looking for an operating system for the microphone because they felt the wind coming. The anecdote wants that Bill Gates who was always a big opportunist, had vaguely heard of an OS (relatively badly fucked up) that a type had developed. While he was not yet its owner at all, he went to sell the concept of this product “to the breath” at IBM, which signed to implement it in all their machines. Then on the basis of this deception, they went to finish his poker game with the guy in question (Tim Paterson) by snatching his OS for a sum around 50 dollars! While he was entitled to royalties from the big blue which made him one of the biggest fortunes in the world. We see there all the profile of the predator with the most unfair and execrable sense of business that is ... After no wonder with such practices that some make a fortune ... It does not make me want to be in their place with their Machiavellian spirit ...

The m ... e he bought was called QDOS which means Quick-and-dirty Operating System, or "Fast and dirty (quickly, poorly done) operating system, which he renamed MS-DOS."

sad period where IBM did a considerable harm to computing ... at the time of the first pc, I also used other machine running under UNIX ... what difference unix was a real operating system which did whatever was useful ... MS DOS was full of stupid limitation

the only trick which made the success of MS DOS is this pseudo compatibility allowing to use the same software in any machine manufactured anywhere or in Asia

IBM was completely rolled around that made it lose its position as a hardware manufacturer

but unix won! it became linux: the unix base was so good that it could be constantly improved without changing base

[renaud67]

Hello,
I repeat myself before so that my message does not get lost in the throes of DOS:


Hello,
I have a water heater ... which does not heat any more how to know if the thermostat type TSE of COTHERM works?.
Thank you
@+

[Obamot]

Yes Chatelot, but note however that .pdf as a file is NOT ABOVE an "open" format. Because it can be open or closed by the author!

THE .PDF IS A FILE FORMAT PROVIDED FOR PRINTING, period. The proof is not editable with the universal software supposed to read that is Acrobat.
- You need professional software to do this (if the rights allow it, if it were as much "open" there would be no possibility of putting rights, its main right is: printing). .
- It is not necessarily open because the author of a document can lock it on several floors.
- It can even lock the basic function of most software: the copied / pasted embedded text !!!
- There is no backward compatibility. So not everyone can read ALL .pdf files (it depends a lot on the version .. of the rights .. and the services "selected" (or not) by the author when creating the file).
- It's fair to say that Acrobat is a platform that integrates other types of files, but few. It is therefore "portable" but not "universal".

This is the very type of file where you can apply the term: "You don't own it"

Now it is impossible for Microsoft to buy Adobe because of the ruthless justice department's US regulatory system on "dominance" issues and anti-competitive rules just like Europe.

So if you have a connection ... but I very much doubt it!

There is much more to fear on the side of "Clouds computing", type of solutions that must absolutely banish (and circulate this info: OF COURSE !!!)

[chatelot16]

renaud67: we complain about things made deliberately difficult to repair by the manufacturer! , it is not really the case of a thermostat and a resistance ... directly feeds the resistance without going through the thermostat ...

measures the thermostat at the hour meter to see if the current flows ...

[renaud67]

OK
thanks.
I'm doing this tonight.