Econometrician PM230: notes on the operation

emmman · by **emmman** » 21/10/09, 21:25

Thank you for checking, I hate to test tomorrow to see if it is the PM who kidding or if my electrical installation is louseuse ... in this case, am I overcharged by EDF? : Shock:

I Citro · by **I Citro** » 21/10/09, 23:43

emmman wrote:Thank you for checking, I hate to test tomorrow to see if it is the PM who kidding or if my electrical installation is louseuse ... in this case, am I overcharged by EDF?

A land issue. :?:

I confirm, my PM230 plugged into our last freezer displays 0.00W (open thermostat) and it displays about 95W when the compressor engages.

Today is the day of monthly meter reading, ie + 24kW on the PM230, or 3.34 € for the freezer (A +) this month.

emmman · by **emmman** » 21/10/09, 23:57

Earth problem?

Bravo! That was it ! In fact my PM230 I ordered on -------, and, unpleasant surprise, the decision is not French ... German I guess ... so I used a universal adapter to power plug it in, it worked, but without ground ... By adding a screw in the hole of the universal adapter, which touches the metal groove of the PM230 earth, the current passes, and I am at 0,0 W on the taken without anything

I will resume my measurements, thank you for putting me on the way!

It's gone for a measurement of 24 hours of the fridge-freezer ... 0,0W compressor off, 20W when you open the door and the light comes on. And 106 when the compressor is running.

[Christine's edict] deletion of the name of the merchant, even if the proof is made that it was better to buy it from us : Cheesy:

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Capt_Maloche · by **Capt_Maloche** » 22/10/09, 09:37

Here you are, and how much did you buy this inadequate device?

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 22/10/09, 09:47

I remind him that he is illegal And dangerous for the use of selling products not adapted to the electrical network of the country of sale !!!

In Germany, we find new PM230 German version at 15-20 € (from the beginning and it really surprised me but it's like that) !!! There is a big difference in price between the FR / BE and German version on behalf of Brennenstuhl himself ... I do not know why, maybe the volumes and the fact that Brennenstuhl is German?

In my opinion, "your salesman" should grease himself well ... if it is not the occasion you can immediately ask for an exchange ... if it is the occasion you got swollen ... had to buy from us ... : Cheesy:

emmman · by **emmman** » 22/10/09, 12:59

Euuhhh ... Meanwhile it goes with my small modification and my universal connection kit, which I already owned so I did not need to buy ...

Yes I'm sure I'm getting swollen but I will not ask for an exchange now that I have it and it works. Especially because it's my fault, on the photo we see that it is not a French version ...

And I used to compare prices on the internet before buying, I had my PM230 for 32 euros shipping in colissimo expert included.

emmman · by **emmman** » 22/10/09, 13:05

Christophe wrote:In Germany, there are new PM230 German version to 15-20 €

I put my hand on the bill, 22 euros TTC ... I got swollen 2 euros ........

That said, to support the site and the forum on which I found good advice I will make a small purchase on the shop the next time I need something;)

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 22/10/09, 13:50

emmman wrote:Shipping costs in colissimo expert included.

For info, the colissimo expert is exactly the same service as the classic colissimo followed ... except that it is for French companies ...

So there is a company that swindles its French customers by refilling German PM230 ... and it makes illegal competition and unfair at the same time to those who sell the FR version.

Hey calmos !!!

After verification this is PM230 used and the new is at the same price as with us! You are not very honest on this point emmman !! : Evil:

emmman · by **emmman** » 22/10/09, 14:09

My PM230 is brand new, sold in its box tightly closed, with the new stickers on it with inscriptions in German, and sold as new object on Amazon marketplace ... there are available OCCAZ or new it depends on the days ...

I am absolutely not dishonest : Shock:

And for the colissimo expert it is a colissimo followed with delivery against signature.

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 22/10/09, 14:17

Moué it depends on the day: if it is declared for French VAT or not ... is that it? Obviously it's unfair ... like on ebay ... pro who sell as individuals, so black without declaring no VAT or profits ... easy to "cut prices" in this case ... : Evil:

I do not know what you want but it sounds like a job for competition ... competition that did not really help you solve your problem I think ... so a little swollen do not you think?

I see not even pkoi I leave all these messages, to compare prices, there are price comparators for this! We must understand that our forum it's not a place to advertise direct competitors especially when they are not very honest ...

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