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Cremation? No cryogenic spraying of the deceased!




by Christophe » 03/11/08, 01:06

Cremation is a has-been and it releases CO2 and VOCs! Long live cryogenic treatment of the dead!

It's not a joke, after the dissolution of your body in acid by an English company, here is another technique, original and "green": the cryogenic disintegration of your body (you know like in the movies .. .) ...

It remains to know the econological cost (gray energy in particular) of the liquid nitrogen required and to compare it to the energy required for a cremation ... classic ... by the hot!

The body of the deceased and the coffin are immersed in liquid nitrogen (cryogenic technology). At this temperature, the elements of the body crystallize and it only takes a small vibration for them to crumble and turn into an organic powder, which represents a third of the weight of the body. (hu? the 1/3?).

The metals are extracted. The powder is placed in a biodegradable coffin. It is buried in the ground at a depth of half a meter: at this depth, oxygen is present. Within a year, the coffin and its contents were transformed into humus. A plant can be planted at the place of burial and become the symbol of the deceased and of life that continues.

Promessa Organic AB suggests freezing the body in liquid nitrogen, then reducing it to a dehydrated powder, removing any pieces of metal that may be there (dental fillings, surgical staples, etc.) before placing them. organic remains in a biodegradable urn that will be buried in a forest cemetery, where the whole is transformed into compost in less than a year.


The official site: http://www.promessa.se/index_en.asp
PDF: http://www.promessa.se/doc/Ekobegr_en.pdf

Found on: http://www.greenbazaar.be/details.php?i ... 407&id=208
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by Ahmed » 05/11/08, 21:41

The English seem imaginative in the matter, because I had heard of a company which envisaged, subject to authorization, to compost bodies. The gray energy balance must be unassailable. Apparently this project did not succeed.

In a previous life ;-), I practiced composting a lot and I had the opportunity and especially the curiosity to compost animals victims of the road: a few unknown cats, an owl ...
I never found the slightest trace of the bodies: not a feather, not a bone. This is because during the composting process there is an acid phase which eliminates these more resistant components. Although I am much more reluctant today when it comes to the practice of composting, I find that, in this case, it is quite satisfactory by ecological criteria.

For incineration, it is practical to have a volcano with a lake of molten lava, unfortunately this situation is not common (lol).
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by Christophe » 05/11/08, 21:53

Here it reminds me of something that I read a while ago.

Some Hindus "get rid" of their dead by giving them as an offering ... to scavengers ... vultures I believe.

This has been a problem in recent years because various pollution has greatly reduced the population of vultures who do not have time to eat the body before it begins to seriously rot ...
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by Ahmed » 06/11/08, 19:35

Your "Hindus" are in fact Indian followers of Ahura-Mazda, in other words Zoroastrians *.
The remains of the deceased are considered unclean and should not soil the ground. Their dead are therefore deposited at the top of towers of silence where they are effectively left to graze for the vultures. These latter being decimated by an unknown cause, this poses some problems for the continuation of this funeral practice.
But this poses more significant ones in general terms of public health, because animal remains are no longer absorbed as was the case before, which is serious in the absence of a rendering service.

* Zoroaster is better known in Europe under his other name of Zarathustra, since Nietzsche wrote his famous "Thus spoke Zarathustra".
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by Gregconstruct » 06/11/08, 19:54

Ahmed wrote:Your "Hindus" are in fact Indian followers of Ahura-Mazda


Wouldn't that rather be Acura-Honda ??? : Cheesy:

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by Christophe » 06/11/08, 19:57

I am always blued by your culture Ahmed!

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by Gregconstruct » 06/11/08, 20:09

It is surprising that this cryogenic method reduces body weight to a third of the original weight!

Unless he loses all his water!?! :|
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by Gregconstruct » 06/11/08, 20:31

I just thought of something!

Once cryogenically pulverized, the water which had also crystallized evaporates during the thawing of the powder obtained.
So all that's left is organic matter!

Does that sound good to you?
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by elephant » 06/11/08, 20:59

(vultures) I saw a photo report, it is also done in Nepal or Tibet, where wood is super rare. We chew the work of these brave beasts by butchering the body before ... charming.

What I have always wondered, is why we burn the coffin, particularly expensive (a coffin bought in Holland for 50 euros is sold to you 300!). The body is in any case placed in a polyethylene sheath ...

In the USA, they are allowed to burn the body in a cardboard coffin. Personally, I think the poly-thing sheath is more than enough. I think it would be much more ecological to rent you a nice coffin and dispose of the body economically. I'm enough for this new solution, although, symbolically, for mourning, I think that poses real problems ...
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by elephant » 06/11/08, 23:20

What ? Does anyone care? We're all gonna go there, I think? no ??? : Cry: : Cry: : Cry: : Cry: :frown: :frown: :frown: : Evil: : Evil: : Evil: : Evil:
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