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by Christophe » 30/10/09, 20:20

Stop your elephant chariot! The break in the cold chain mainly concerns frozen products!

A compote, for example, does not need to be kept cool ... at all!

And any yogurt or custard can easily handle 1 to 2 hours outside the fridge!

The proof: when you do your shopping ... you don't put them directly in the fridge (unless you have refrigerated caddies!) ...

Good otherwise question gabegie of the French hopitos, if I don't get it wrong: the surgical tools are for SINGLE USE!

I'm obviously not talking about "consumables" such as needles or masks but scalpels, scissors, extractors ... etc etc in alloyed stainless steel of surgical quality (in short, it is expensive) ...Well, all these instruments are DESTROYED after a single operation.

Not even that the metals are recycled! (we don't laugh with medical recycling!)

In Germany, for several years, companies have specialized in the "reconditioning" of these tools after a severe disinfection obviously ...

Apparently it works!
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by Flytox » 30/10/09, 23:24

Waste at the hospital is difficult to talk about without talking about social security. Wonderful invention, yet a part of the medical profession sees only as a cash cow that you have to bleed a little more every day to get your pockets full.

One example among thousands of others. I'm going to see an acquaintance on her hospital bed after a heart attack. He called me and said he was scared but that it was good and that he would be out in a few days .... When I arrive, the nurse tells me that he is in "Care Intensive "... but that I can perfectly go and see it : Shock: . Phew he is actually "fine".

The visit ends, I go out and grab the nurse. Why is he in intensive care if he is well? He does not know the seriousness of his case or what? There is a problem ???
The nurse answers, No! The price of the room in intensive care is billed much more expensive than the others, so as long as there is room ..... I express my surprise, she laughed. Obviously she took me for a great naive ...
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by Christophe » 30/10/09, 23:31

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Calls Special Envoy! Must shake up this shit! I call this kind of behavior the ABUSE OF SOCIAL GOODS!

The security hole deserves a subject all by itself!

ps: great naive goes! Welcome to the club! : Cheesy:
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by Christophe » 31/10/09, 01:10

By the way, tonight in C dans l'air, it was on the (mis) functioning of hospitals in France ...

Did you know that there were, in France: 12 deaths per year from hospital "accidents" (in the broad sense)? An unknown figure ... : Shock:

A review here: http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/inde ... rique=1287
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by elephant » 31/10/09, 09:32

I join your rant, dear Flytox!

Flytox wrote:Waste at the hospital is difficult to talk about without talking about social security. Wonderful invention, yet a part of the medical profession sees only as a cash cow that you have to bleed a little more every day to get your pockets full.

One example among thousands of others. I'm going to see an acquaintance on her hospital bed after a heart attack. He called me and said he was scared but that it was good and that he would be out in a few days .... When I arrive, the nurse tells me that he is in "Care Intensive "... but that I can perfectly go and see it : Shock: . Phew he is actually "fine".

The visit ends, I go out and grab the nurse. Why is he in intensive care if he is well? He does not know the seriousness of his case or what? There is a problem ???
The nurse answers, No! The price of the room in intensive care is billed much more expensive than the others, so as long as there is room ..... I express my surprise, she laughed. Obviously she took me for a great naive ...


Well yes: a "patient" (the term is well chosen) is a subject of medicine. Each case is a potential source of income.
It's madness: the other day, I saw a doctor prescribe an anti-depressant to a "minimexed" patient at 85 euros for a box of 60, not reimbursed by the security. What a shame: in addition, doctors are manipulated by drug companies!
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by Christine » 31/10/09, 11:52

... and what about care not provided but reimbursed .... For example, the physiotherapist who is reimbursed for 12 sessions as on the prescription but who only provided 8 because the client did not wish to continue beyond. It is a common practice.

I even knew of a case where the practitioner threatened to sue the patient by demanding that he pay the unsupported portion of prescribed care ... which he had not received. What nerve !
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by Christophe » 31/10/09, 12:00

Ok then if we go this way: the safety hole makes me laugh in the sense that it does not count the following returns:

a) VAT on drugs (a few billion already I assume). Most meds are taxed at 5.5% according to wiki http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxe_sur_l ... _en_France
but medical procedures are 100% exempt !!

b) taxes and charges of pharmacies and other independent health

c) taxes on the income of all workers in the medical sector

d) taxes on the companies of the big labs (even if, THEY, do not have to pay much ... tax dumping obliges ...)

Etc etc ... am not enough health specialist to make a complete list ....

I would not be surprised that in addition this hole is subject to adggios / bank interests!

In short we are crazy about our mouths!
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by elephant » 31/10/09, 12:22

Christine wrote:... and what about care not provided but reimbursed .... For example, the physiotherapist who is reimbursed for 12 sessions as on the prescription but who only provided 8 because the client did not wish to continue beyond. It is a common practice.

I even knew of a case where the practitioner threatened to sue the patient by demanding that he pay the unsupported portion of prescribed care ... which he had not received. What nerve !


He is right: because he will pay taxes on it: will he prove that the care was not administered.
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by Christophe » 31/10/09, 12:26

I think you gurus elephant, you pay taxes on your real cash receipts !! Would Pkoi be reimbursed for work that was not performed?

This kind of practice is therefore worse than moonlighting (because in this case the work is still real) here it is just the abuse of social goods!

It's exactly like the fictitious jobs of Chirac (among others) ...
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by Christine » 31/10/09, 13:35

elephant wrote:He is right: because he will pay taxes on it: will he prove that the care was not administered.


Normally the care sheets prove what has been done or not. But it is true that you have to want to check.

Now, if we find that practitioners are right to charge national solidarity for acts that they do not perform ...

Last week a dentist was arrested near Liège for billing for 1 million euros in 4 years (or 250 euros per year!) For unpaid care: why should he be bothered?

And m..de, why didn't I do medicine? : Mrgreen:
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