I agree with Christophe, the pods is a real scandal.
even if the coffee is good; at this price he can,
I bought a "Magimix which does both: filter and espresso
for the espresso, we put like ground coffee at the bistro, I think the pressure is 15 bars, and it's very good.
as I drink bcps of coffee in the morning (1l) I do it with the filter parts, this gives a weaker coffee.
fair trade is good but it is trade and those who gain the most from it are always the intermediaries, it is a selling point to sell more expensive even if the "small" producer earns more.
Unless the "small" producer turns into a factory to put his ground coffee in pods, I don't see the point, that's not the point ...
Grrr: fair Senseo cartridges Oxfam
Christophe wrote:pfff this one is at 3,5 bars
http://www.armenager.com/electromenager/produit/27518/
I don't understand
Christine help !!
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you can have the pressure you want in the tank (+ you put it + you can make coffee in a row); but if you balance 3.5 bars in the coffee cup you will have a "splatch" and a lot of foam , but no coffee.
Christine will not be happy will have to clean 2 meters around
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Zac, I am only repeating what it is noted on the technical sheets ... 3 bars in a capsule of senseo is not huge ...
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Well, it seems to me that one of the stated principles of fair trade is to reduce intermediaries, right?Colmant wrote:[...] fair trade is good but it is trade and those who gain the most from it are always the intermediaries, it is a selling point to sell more expensive even if the "small" producer earn more. [...]
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A little off topic but in the thread of the discussion
When a product costs 5 to 10 times the price of the manufacture
I call that legalized theft, which benefits a few people and the government, collecting a sales tax on an inflated price is more profitable.
It would take a law so that a product never doubles the factory price. (Transport and handling stories we start to know the song, there is a gangne who does not work, and who make monopolies, all consumer products must go through their warehouses, it almost looks like the mafia at the port of Montreal and Chicago.
The worst example is in clothes and even worse in women's rags. The prices exceed 10 times the factory outlet price.
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A little off topic but in the thread of the discussion
When a product costs 5 to 10 times the price of the manufacture
I call that legalized theft, which benefits a few people and the government, collecting a sales tax on an inflated price is more profitable.
It would take a law so that a product never doubles the factory price. (Transport and handling stories we start to know the song, there is a gangne who does not work, and who make monopolies, all consumer products must go through their warehouses, it almost looks like the mafia at the port of Montreal and Chicago.
The worst example is in clothes and even worse in women's rags. The prices exceed 10 times the factory outlet price.
Andre
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Andre wrote:The worst example is in clothes and even worse in women's rags. The prices exceed 10 times the factory outlet price.
there is better perfumery and especially the medical and paramedical, it is normal people do not buy a product but a dream or health.
So we sell them well packaged human bullshit: the raw material is inexhaustible and free and the buyers more and more.
PS: the more it is expensive and the more it is con the better it works
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You raise a real subject for people like me who sell fair (and organic) food: Should we go to the technological market?
For your information, it is almost impossible to make ground coffee or pods in southern countries, because of the CAP which surcharges roasted coffee.
On the other hand, our soluble coffees are all 100% processed and packaged on the spot, which means that by buying them you give approx 40% of the purchase price in the country of origin.
If you buy a product labeled Max Havelaar transformed in Europe, you will give 12% of this selling price to the country of origin.
If you buy a standard product, this will range from 4 to 8% high-end (organic) products.
The palm of the glaucous return to the tea, from your box often less than 1% return to the producer.
Do not type too quickly on processed products, they allow cooperatives to diversify their outlets, or to develop another part of their product (on red tea, the branches are used to make tea, the roots are used for cosmetics)
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For your information, it is almost impossible to make ground coffee or pods in southern countries, because of the CAP which surcharges roasted coffee.
On the other hand, our soluble coffees are all 100% processed and packaged on the spot, which means that by buying them you give approx 40% of the purchase price in the country of origin.
If you buy a product labeled Max Havelaar transformed in Europe, you will give 12% of this selling price to the country of origin.
If you buy a standard product, this will range from 4 to 8% high-end (organic) products.
The palm of the glaucous return to the tea, from your box often less than 1% return to the producer.
Do not type too quickly on processed products, they allow cooperatives to diversify their outlets, or to develop another part of their product (on red tea, the branches are used to make tea, the roots are used for cosmetics)
At your disposal to answer any question (I do not work for Oxfam)
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