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by eclectron » 22/10/16, 20:00

Ahmed wrote:It does not destabilize anything and its freedom is very limited

you do not understand what I mean by freedom. I said freedom from his own thoughts. thoughts that are partly the result of the formatting of society.
such a man is dangerous for society because he does not let himself be caught without his net, he sees what is tacit and agreed for others and he is free to act and think beyond the taboos and limits of society .
By radiation on his entourage he contaminates the society that will do its best to reject it, or compel it to return to the ranks.

Ahmed wrote:And also:
Certainly technology, a pebble for example, can happen before the thought that a use is possible to crack a nut for example.

Ahmed wrote:I suppose you did not express yourself well, because a rock does not belong to the technique, only its use.

Oh darn! And that changes everything ... : roll: : Lol:
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by Ahmed » 22/10/16, 20:17

I think I understood what you meant by freedom and I answered it. On the other hand your sentence on the stone remains obscure and that changes everything ...
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by eclectron » 22/10/16, 22:26

Ahmed wrote:I think I understood what you meant by freedom and I answered it. On the other hand your sentence on the stone remains obscure and that changes everything ...

take off your sunglasses and you will understand better. 8) : Lol:
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by Christophe » 15/02/18, 12:29

Biodiversity VS Climate change from a media treatment point of view ... biodiversity has a very small standard deviation ... therefore a good consistency of treatment ... unlike global warming ...

Our house burns and we look elsewhere: the media under-treatment of the biodiversity crisis?

The current biodiversity crisis does not affect the general public. A Franco-Canadian study published in Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution has measured the treatment gap in the press of two major environmental issues: biodiversity loss and climate change. Media coverage of climate change is up to eight times that of biodiversity loss, despite a small difference in the production of scientific literature and funding for research.

More: http://www.cnrs.fr/inee/communication/breves/b337.html


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by Ahmed » 15/02/18, 14:22

It is all the difference between environment and ecology which is expressed through this gap in media treatment: the environment is more significant since it is defined as what surrounds man, a central subject and almost independent of the latter. (everything is in the "quasi"!), except in its immediate vicinity; ecology represents all the interactions of living things and the environment, so in this, man only constitutes a small part of the whole ... Clearly less glamorous as a phenomenon ...
Another reason emerges from simple accounting elements: displaying CO² concentration curves is something readable, while the process of alteration of biodiversity is, say, "discreet" and is less easily understood. This is the whole gap between the quantitative and the qualitative: technical development has made us short-sighted in this last criterion.
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by Ahmed » 05/07/18, 12:53

A book for the summer ... 8) "Man, this animal missed"Of Pierre Jouventin. This book by an ecologist and scholarly ethologist is right in this subject. I add that it is easy to access and therefore not only for insiders ...
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by Diabolorent » 05/07/18, 15:13

Ahmed says: ... "technical developments have made us myopic on this last criterion."
Or blind ... or indifferent (which is worse!) ... or ignorant (which is even worse !!) ...

It reminds me of the joke in "humor" which says (to something close):
"What do you think is the biggest problem (of ecology in this case), ignorance or indifference?"
The other responds: "I don't know, and I don't care!"

Money is at the origin of all this, it is the only greed that absorbs all the vital necessities, and blinds the morons we are!

We no longer wonder "what will I need?" but "what I want, there, now, right away". We seek happiness in futility if we do not live it in reality.

One example: alarming studies which show on the one hand that today's children are more and more myopic, stupid, fat (even obese), sick (declining immunity), thoughtless ... and another, an ever more marked imprint of technology in homes, at school which every day favors confinement a little more, the propaganda of egoism (I come back to the ego), the "normalization" of stupidity, the race to the bottom ... and yet, parents (maybe the same ones who complain about their kids' bullshit) who abound in the sense of ever more technology (since this is the norm) , by mimicry (Panurge sheep I could read), or as a means of showing its "success" : roll:
"I have silly kids, but you saw my last 'iPhandrosung 10.9, it messed up!'

The snake is biting its tail!

But above all, nobody to put a brake because the heads of state, we see it well, are at the boot of the great powers of this world that we infuse the poisons (food, medical, audio-visual and others) that we let us quietly in front of our screens, mirrors of our submission to this globalist oligarchy, reassuring submission for some as may be the religion. Stockholm syndrome?

An old Indian to his grandson: "Each of us has two wolves in battle. The first represents serenity, love and kindness. The second represents fear, greed and hatred. "
"Which of the two wolves wins?" Asks the child.
"The one we feed" answers the grandfather.

What did you feed in the end?
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by Janic » 05/07/18, 16:15

bravo, nice reflection! but you saw my last "iPhandrosung 10.9, il crirrreeee!" : Cheesy:
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by Ahmed » 05/07/18, 16:39

Money is at the origin of all this, it is the only greed that absorbs all the vital necessities, and blinds the morons we are!

As an abstraction, only the accumulation of money (universal representation of all commodities) can imagine infinite. There have been, in the past and / or in other cultural references, symbolic cases approaching: the pile of manure in the yard of I do not know what European rural society or the extent of the herd * in some African breeders (I in both cases, it is the non-functional quantity that invests in the symbolic) ... However, the material side (and cumbersome!) greatly limited the scope possible! In the case of money, this side was originally more concentrated, but, moreover, it has continued to lose this little materiality for this abstraction which represents its essence.

* In these examples, it is funny to note that "herd" comes from Latin polloi who gave money in French!
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by sen-no-sen » 05/07/18, 17:04

Diabolorent wrote:Ahmed says: ... "technical developments have made us myopic on this last criterion."
Or blind ... or indifferent (which is worse!) ... or ignorant (which is even worse !!) ...


Technology is ideas (what are called tems ou techno-memes) who colonize our brains.
Insofar as technology allows the human being to maximize his chances of survival (access to drinking water, heating, hygiene, medicine, etc.), he has quickly become the dominant ideology (technologism).
All technological interactions form a kind of super-brain that acts according to its own logic: to totalize all the dimensions: spatial, temporal, social, conceptual etc ...

If at first the technology allows the reign of the human, it becomes more and more clear that from now on the servant wants to become a master, something which is observed by a subjugation of the populations to the economy as well as by a destruction of the forms of life not necessary to final technology achievement (ecocide).
To substantiate what you mention about intellectual impoverishment could have cited as an example the advent of reality TV in the late 90 (broadcast Big Brother(sic!) in the Netherlands).
The principle of the show was simple, show people in isolation and monitor 24h / 24, according to a basic fund of funds: money sex and superficiality, all it takes to boost the ratings.
The principle was therefore easy to understand, intellectually impoverish the viewer by lowering his critical abilities by the use of trivial determinisms (the ass!) While insidiously introducing the idea of ​​acceptance of permanent surveillance ... 2ansans the attacks 11 / 09 would definitely launch the odyssey not of space but of terrorism and the all-out acceptance of electronic surveillance ...
So conspiracy or process of "technologization"? I look for the second case ... more rational but more complex to grasp.
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