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by gildas » 03/10/12, 11:40

Obamot wrote: what should be done, so that the power changes sides?


Come on, a little orgone for Obamot! : Cheesy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um9kd-mhhK4
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by dedeleco » 03/10/12, 12:24

Real, worksl, to reduce our suicide by 30%, or even more, by reducing global warming with CO2 and other gases and without nuclear:

www.dlsc.ca

to use the summer solar heat to heat in winter, without pollution, without consuming, in perpetuity.
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by Ahmed » 03/10/12, 19:55

An abundant message that goes a bit in all directions! :P

I only note a few points.

I don't understand what you mean when you say that Communist China has known how to evolve positively, while it synthesizes (at our destination) the worst in our societies.

Also strange is this:
- create a social organization and institutions independent of economic constraints (this is already the case to a large extent, but this is hidden by hypocrisy).
:?:

Finally, the idea of ​​a "quantifiable" gift is a profound misunderstanding, since, unlike the exchange in money, the gift always finds its counterpart, precisely because of its non-quantification: ex. : if you help someone by carrying their suitcase up a staircase, they can always thank you with a smile (counter-donation).
The other characteristic of the gift, which also opposes it to the market exchange, is that it is nominal and continuous (the market exchange is abstract [seller / buyer] and once the exchange is completed, the relationship is closed).
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by Ahmed » 09/10/12, 18:55

I unfortunately could not read the book by D.Jared, but it does seem that he exaggerated by systematizing the destruction of the peoples of the past, when we have most of the time little to decide on the various hypotheses formulated.

Dede, whatever the relevance of the system that you propose, this saving would not change anything, since it would result in an equivalent waste in another field; we are not faced with a technical problem: it is not the “how” that must be resolved, but the “towards what should we strive?”.
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by Obamot » 09/10/12, 22:32

Okay, I'm going to put my neuron in order : Cheesy:

Gildas wrote:
Obamot wrote: what should be done, so that the power changes sides?


Come on, a little orgone for Obamot! : Cheesy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um9kd-mhhK4

: Cheesy: Gildas "positive", it's cool, nice, reminded me of Moody Blues ..> and Lou Reed ..> thx!
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by Ahmed » 14/10/12, 22:18

Obamot wrote:
what should be done, so that the power changes sides?

Power is not the solution: this is the problem!
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by highfly-addict » 15/10/12, 00:01

Disagree ! The unconsciousness / irresponsibility with which power is exercised is the problem. Small nuance.
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by sen-no-sen » 15/10/12, 11:55

The human being is an animal of power, he constantly seeks to exercise it in one way or another, and those since kindergarten ...
The hierarchical structure is driven by our genes, whether we like it or not ...

If most "revolutions" end in failures, it is precisely because groups want to change power ... to get started ... and restore the classic pattern of submission within the group.
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by the middle » 15/10/12, 12:52

Hmm, this is the second time I have looked if it is not me who launched this post, so I think it is true.
For me, this subject of reflection is .. Fundamental ..? for our future?
I have, as they say, my ass always in the butter ...
It would be good to have the opinion of poor people, from Africa or Brazil, or happy people (for now) who live in symbiosis with nature ...
Personally, I want to say that the people who are in power, kill us or, kill our future ..
I also believe, that the human being is capable of very rapid evolution, in the good, as in the bad ... unlike a crocodile, very simple animal, but which managed to cross many stages of the planet .
If "god" exists then it is interesting to evolve, if there is nothing after death, then the life of homo erectus is meaningless. obamot, there is a double meaning)
PS, for me, god means life after death. : Cheesy:
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by sen-no-sen » 15/10/12, 13:14

lejustemilieu wrote:Personally, I want to say that the people who are in power, kill us or, kill our future ..


There is not an ultimate power, for example: the president of the republic, even if he is at the top of the hierarchical institutional pyramid, must also submit to the constraints of other groups (citizens, nations etc ... ) and especially to the economic system.

In short, their power remains very relative! It is only valid in the institution.
In addition, to govern, you must constantly compromise, otherwise your dismissal is inevitable!
This is why the real characters of powers generally prevail in the shadows, and are little or not known to the general public.

It would therefore be more correct to speak of power games, than of total and ultimate power, because it is a permanent battle than to maintain its domination over the others.

On the other hand, one should not continually blame the faults on the leaders, because a governor is used to direct people who in one way or another will,it is a tacit agreement.

Another very important notion: do not confuse Power and the race for power.
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