Gaps in National Education programs and limits of new narcissistic educational methods

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by Christophe » 18/10/10, 13:13

gegyx wrote:Civics explained the workings of the republic in college.
It was recalled to military service, with first aid.


Well I remember: it was not folichon ...
But good as I was in Alsace we had civic education OR religion class that was not folichon either!

gegyx wrote:Young people have less knowledge in these areas, therefore, but are more alert, better able to make presentations, to sort it out.


Oh yeah? I would not be so sure, copied lectures pasted wiki or elsewhere.

And when we see the tone of students asking questions about forums we can fear for the future: we would say that we owe them everything ...

There are even some sites that specialize in the TRADE of student work ... I even think there are pantone reports, maybe even mine ...

It means what it means: we struggle to do as little as possible ... yes ...

gegyx wrote:(It's a bit like sex education that did not exist before 1968 ... : Cheesy: )


Well shit did I miss that or what?
Do not tell me it was during religion classes ??? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

gegyx wrote:Oh yes ! The president wants to change the history books, with the positive role of colonization ...
And the Christian imprint on the European construction ...
So it coming!
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Moue except that in everyday life ... History how to say ... we swing a little?

I love history because knowing the past is to be able to better predict the future BUT I did not have this reasoning in college, let alone primary. History was by heart and basta ...
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by quartz » 18/10/10, 13:55

Hello everybody :D

Since you're talking about education, I'm telling you this "comical".
With complementary elements, on this site.
The video is in 16 or 17 parts but really it's lace.

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by Christophe » 18/10/10, 14:04

I watch.

How do you get the link from a playlist?
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by quartz » 18/10/10, 14:35

Bin I put myself on it and I get the address in the address bar of the browser.

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by Macro » 18/10/10, 14:58

Well ... I have the two minimacrocrados which are respectively in CM1 and 4eme colleges in public education ....

I would already be happy if their program allows them to read and write French at the end of high school ...

When to come to rely on their ten fingers ... Maybe at the Baccalaureate ...

AFFLIGEANT is the word ...


Then maybe some lessons or awakening to gardening and raising rabbits would awaken them to the reproduction of plants and mammals better than Titeuf ...

And then maybe hello and thank you would come from them even if they had at least the impression to learn something ...

The current school programs are made to make our children dark enslaved enslaved remote controlled by the media ...
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by Christophe » 18/10/10, 15:28

Macro wrote:Well ... I have the two minimacrocrados which are respectively in CM1 and 4eme colleges in public education ....

I would already be happy if their program allows them to read and write French at the end of high school ...

When to come to rely on their ten fingers ... Maybe at the Baccalaureate ...

AFFLIGEANT is the word ...


Ben, however, their father does not seem to be too stupid ... so it's not the genes : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Well you have to impose 1h night with you forum econology ... except about humor : Cheesy:


Macro wrote:The current school programs are made to make our children dark enslaved enslaved remote controlled by the media ...


So it's been a lot worse since I stopped ... : Cry:

What does Remundo think about being on the other side of the mirror?
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by Macro » 19/10/10, 09:22

Christophe wrote:
Ben, however, their father does not seem to be too stupid ... so it's not the genes : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:


This is because the light goes faster than the sound

Christophe wrote:Well you have to impose 1h night with you forum econology ... except about humor : Cheesy:



So that in addition to hearing the bullshit uttered by their father, they read ???
Gaffe, it prints better in the brain when it is read .... Not that in addition they take their father as a model ... They would have serious problems of social integration ...




Christophe wrote:So it's been a lot worse since I stopped ... : Cry:

What does Remundo think about being on the other side of the mirror?


Remundo I do not know ... A teacher of primary class (50ans) of my relationship maintains me that I abuse ... Barely ...
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by Remundo » 19/10/10, 10:44

What I think is that the school programs are both ambitious and careless ...

Because we try to inculcate fine notions of geo history, biology, maths, physical sciences ...

While the most fundamental teachings are sloppy: In French: spelling, grammar, syntax,
In maths: logic, rigor, mental calculation, order of magnitude

In terms of etiquette, there is hardly any education. The insults are not sanctioned, so a thank you and a hello miss, think so! In the ZEP, the adult is no longer seen as respecting and bringing benefit to the student, on the contrary it is to be challenged and despised to the highest degree.

After all that, do not be misunderstood, the programs are very secondary. The central problem is the demotivation and growing disillusionment of society, especially that of students, which is beginning to spread in the faculty.

All this goes back even further: there is no direction given at the highest level, there is no coherence and common and unifying goals in France. No benevolent authority. No policy for the general interest of the long term, just a policy of special interests in the short term ...

So everyone pulls in their paws and starts eating the crumbs of a cake that decreases instead of fattening ...

it's been several decades since it lasts ...
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by Did67 » 19/10/10, 11:52

I would add:

- who says good teachers at night at the table in front of children?

- who expresses admiration for knowledge, knowledge? (and not for an Ipod, an LED screen or the latest car model ????

I speak on the assumption that it is not the commercials of TV that floods the family table, of course ...

So how can we be surprised that a kid, who was, at the beginning, only a sponge, then goes to school "to be pissed off" ???? "There's not even an Ipod at school!" "They are rotten theirs - old - televised - still cathodic)"

When I was young, was it not, my father respected the instinct like the priest like the mayor; excited, he took off his cap and almost stammered ... If I talk about it, it's because I've lived it!
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by Christophe » 30/10/10, 12:11

Lol macro :)

3 other shortcomings 2 grâves the other less:

a) The functioning of Europe (it is still a few decades that we are above)
b) The functioning of banks (hiihhihi)
C) Learn how to make an economic profitability calculation

It is b) and c) grâves obviously ... on c) there would be fewer people who would balk to equip themselves in economic light bulbs ...

Cf: https://www.econologie.com/forums/test-essai ... 10087.html
et https://www.econologie.com/calculateur-ampoules.html

It is linked to the course of "sustainable consumption"
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