Strategy for manipulating the population and opinion in 10 rules

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Re: Handling Strategy (peoples) in 10 rules




by Obamot » 11/11/10, 14:54

Capt_Maloche wrote:
Christophe wrote:... OrArt of how to manipulate people, individuals, companies ...

10 these points are interesting for understanding our societies (past and besides, it was not invented anything we have just upgraded) ...

Challenge of the Day: find someone who does not agree or does not recognize an experience in at least 1 10 of these points! : Cheesy:
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YOU!

I already have the balls, just to read the first lines, Stop, I wanted to forget :D

AARRGGNNN!


Hi friends !

Rather than "Forget" would it not be better to point to a reflection, asking us about "the state of consciousness / lucidity in which the person is (ie: the cohort? The gang? The manecanterie, lol) who can be perceived as manipulative " (as much as the one in which are, those who have the feeling - legitimate or not - of being manipulated) ... by tackling this question upstream!

Because I think that by arriving to diagnose "causes and motives" we are better equipped to thwart stratagems ...

For that, I was reflecting this morning, on what would prevail of the motivations of the "manipulator" person / group and especially in what state of "lucidity / consciousness" this occurs.

And I thought of the cultural hypothesis as an initial factor prevailing [...] what do you think?

PS: let's face it: I'm rather "idealist" eh ...! So who (?) Bites the apple and why (?) : Mrgreen: 8) : Cheesy: : Arrowu:
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by dedeleco » 11/11/10, 18:04

It seems to me that we forget the effective hypnotic methods used by advertisements and dictators without anyone noticing.
There are those subliminal in the movies, advertisements and elsewhere.

Hypnosis is very real, even conscious.
There is also religious fanaticism, linked to hypnosis and the hypnotic repetition of God !!
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by Obamot » 11/11/10, 18:36

: Mrgreen: ... yes and no (rather no ...) although we can well ask ourselves the question of "WHO wants to be hypnotized OR not ... and why?" :?

And there, if you wanted to speak as an example: "brain-washing of Skull and Bones ..." as a sleeping pill ... and "Conspiracy theory" (9/11 among others) ... as an absolute need to belong to dogma: don't we fall back "de facto" on "Cultural deal"... : Cheesy: That would explain many things ...

ie what Dr. Ray Griffin said ...> and this sort of resurgence of the popullist far right across the "TEA Party" ("noble" movement at the start which turns into a huge deception ...) since a movement against financial circles and its excesses at the origin (scandal of "subprime" ...>), it was completely taken over by the clan of the "Falcons" (somewhere, the very ones who hold the reins of economic power and against whom the "TEA Party" was supposed to fight at the start) and this for their political benefit ...
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by I Citro » 11/11/10, 18:41

Obamot wrote:ie what Dr. Ray Griffin said ...> and this sort of resurgence of the extreme right-wing popullist through the "TEA Party" (huge deception ...) since a movement against financial circles and its excesses at the origin (subprime affair), it was completely taken over by the clan of the "Falcons" (somewhere, the very ones who hold the reins of economic power and against which the TEA Party was supposed to fight at the start) and this for their benefit ...
: Evil: We will never get out of it. : Arrowu:
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by Obamot » 11/11/10, 18:47

: Cheesy: : Cheesy: : Cheesy: ... because do you honestly believe that "the story" Won't you repeat yourself?

... while obviously, the news shows us that this has already been the case!

: Shock: :?

... or it is not enough to paraphrase, you have to argue my dear Citro : Mrgreen:
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by chatelot16 » 11/11/10, 20:14

it seems to me wrong to call this strategy of manipulation of the people! it is not effective at all, any dictator would do better

this pseudo strategy is ineffective, it demoralizes everyone and it leads us to decadence ... I see only a strategy of survival of small leader in a rotten world

divide and conquer, is only a strategy to remain in power for small chiefs who do not have the necessary skills

remains to know how to have a competent leader ... I'm afraid that democracy is not the right way
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by sen-no-sen » 11/11/10, 20:30

chatelot16 wrote:it seems to me wrong to call this strategy of manipulation of the people! it is not effective at all, any dictator would do better


On the contrary, I find that this "strategy" and its outcome ( "the totalitarian market system") did not realize what no hierarchical type dictatorships had managed to achieve so far: domination on a world scale ...



remains to know how to have a competent leader ... I'm afraid that democracy is not the right way


It would still be necessary that modern society is "tasted" of true democracy!
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by chatelot16 » 11/11/10, 20:35

it's 2 ways to say the same thing: democracy does not work or we have never had a true democracy ...
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by Lietseu » 25/01/11, 22:17

Sorry, I have more time to do something other than paste this:

http://www.syti.net/SilentWeapons.html


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by Obamot » 25/01/11, 23:06

Extremely well seen, the cat! It deserves a summary work (with the ten points of the title or not).

chatelot16 wrote:it seems to me wrong to call this strategy of manipulation of the people! it is not effective at all, any dictator would do better

... yes Chatelot, however there are still a lot of people who know a lot of things, or who have been confronted with these problemes, and with whom it can make "tilt". It's a good "wakeup call"!
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