Stéphane Hessel "All things considered ... or almost"

[Obamot]

The question is rather why this man [Hessel] was so much in the media: it was simply an element of the system, of single thinking, a vector of propaganda.

Ah! That's not wrong: ONE POINT!

(clap, clap clap);)

Note that the prerequisite is the "will to harm", since it is a will to manipulate (if one considers that there is one! Hey hey ...)

PS: in this case, it applies to so many others, and leads to another question, "Who has the power of the press?" (Although this is not really a question from MA, but rather a question to ask yourself "in general");)

[gegyx]

I put this link

https://www.econologie.com/forums/post251558.html#251558

[BobFuck]

PS: in this case, it applies to so many others, and leads to another question, "Who has the power of the press?"

But ... the same people who just hold power!

[Obamot]

It is unfortunately very likely indeed!

And with the condescension of those who buy this press!

I put this link

https://www.econologie.com/forums/post251558.html#251558

Hoplàh, interesting! However, this is a step that I would not take! Even if Bob's thesis is verifiable.

I see where you're coming from, but why should we jump in the extremism of the idea? ( 'if this is true then the whole press is (would be) rotten. ” etc.).
Isn't this where we face a fallacy without the need for the slightest Boolean logic that would support ... A bit as if the very denunciation of a fact would force by itself to validate de facto all the remains (a supposed thesis without anti-thesis, which would be self-justified ... Who can tumble down on the simple crime of "dirty mouth" if we are not careful, in fact.)?

This reduction mechanism would then make it possible to "prove yourself right"(or good conscience) anytime, anywhere, in any case, right? I have a family member who's become a bit like that.

If so, I think it's a dangerous approach. There the pathos - hear the paranoid drift - can watch without the knowledge of his own free will, can it, and which can create some misunderstandings in discernment (I say that without any offense, quite the contrary).

It's just a difference in approach that divides us Gegyx, we are not fundamentally in opposition or systematically on all points (if you know what I mean) this is also why you have so much trouble in understand me, if I'm not mistaken!

If it was so simple ...

So yes, when you say that I also applaud, but a little regret with support on the hind legs ...

[gegyx]

I linked to the subject, what you are causing.

Now if Descartefigue wants to make it a novel, free to him.

[gegyx]

Rick: They act on banking circles?

Alex: Yes, everything revolves around money from the international monetary fund. They take on fabulous debts to the whole world. You know, governments are now able to declare a state of emergency, suspend the Constitution of the United States and nationalize. And the reason they will have to nationalize is because our debt will far exceed any repayment capacity.

Rick: Who will be the beneficiaries?

Alex: It's not a country, it's a group of men. It is a group of human beings.

Rick: A group of human beings?

Alex: That's right. Aliens don't need money. And the day the United States says "we can no longer pay down our debt, so you can say goodbye to the entire global monetary system." Then they can reset all the slates to zero and start again once all the banks in the United States have been nationalized. Kennedy was probably the last real president in office, and all this big mess happened because former leaders sold everything for comfort and power.

For fans of evening classes, but hang on it can be difficult, if it's new to you
http://www.divulgation-extraterrestre.o ... -physique/

[BobFuck]

With "extraterrestrial" in the name, it immediately sounds more serious

> A bit as if the very denunciation of a fact would have force on its own
> de facto validate everything else

There is no need to reach such extremes ...

1) Let us note the obvious: the government is a bunch of inept and thieves who are themselves part of the problem.

2) The silence of the press on these subjects is deafening (and above all, no reflection in depth); when it claims to think, it stays in the dominant ideology (ie, bisounoursesque collectivism).

Conclusion: the press is rotten.

Fortunately, despite the conditioning, the bastards of the poor have their asses full, witness the results of the last elections in Italy (and the UKIP has just made an excellent score among roasts in partial legislative elections).

[bidouille23]

Hello ,


Bob, the only common plan is empathy nothing more ...
it is the question of wondering if I am even why I would have reached this conclusion if I had been myself put in this position.
from that moment we can begin to understand in order to no longer see things from a single angle, often reductive.

And if certain call that the world of the bisounours then it is that it is the case, will that push us to understand starting from this postulate ??? I hope so ...

Regarding the world of teddy bears who love each other, if it is so pejorative that it is that the world in which we live is ultimately good so that there is nothing to change in understanding things in life that go through their own understanding of things, by changing you allow the other to understand that he too can change his mind and action ...

The other is only a mirror of yourself, the other is another yourself ....

nothing more ...

By indignant yourself, I mean "take the time to think for yourself, and try to put yourself in the other's shoes ..."

After knowing why, how, Mr. Hessel was put forward does not matter to me in fact, in fact it is basically not his name that should be remembered but just the message for yourself "....

but everyone sees noon at their door, I do not express here my way of thinking and I respect yours without judging them, because any personal conclusion formed on a logical reflection is more than respectable ...

[Obamot]

As Bob replied, the aliens' blow is serious.

Yes Bidouille, it is not what is accused of him, but his lack of discernment which borders on the code. (I shouldn't laugh about it, besides I hardly ever use smileys)

So, hop, ditto answer to his penultimate post ...

(for the previous answer, I declare forfeit because it is relatively incurable, especially since these nickel-plated feet make it an instrumentalization for their conspirovni-thing ...)

PS: and finally I note that Bob is not so far from Hessel, then that he relates the raz-le-bol of Italian citizens, visible in the votes. It's still a vote of indignation (even if we can we can call Bepe Grillo a populist). So all hope is not necessarily lost, is it?

[gegyx]

Portugal: an apolitical movement mobilizes against austerity

Demonstrations were planned for Saturday in around thirty cities in Portugal against austerity at the call of an apolitical movement which succeeded last September in bringing hundreds of thousands of people to the streets. (c) dpa
LISBON (AFP) - Demonstrations were planned for Saturday in around thirty cities in Portugal against austerity at the call of an apolitical movement which succeeded last September in bringing hundreds of thousands of people to the streets.
Organized by the movement "Let the Troika be seen", comparable to the Spanish Indignants, the demonstrations will take place while the main target of the protesters, the "troika" (EU-IMF-ECB, representing Portugal's creditors, is Lisbon for a new examination of the country's accounts, under financial assistance.
"We think it will be a huge demonstration," said one of the leaders of the movement, Nuno Ramos de Almeida, on the eve of the rally. "We want to explain that alternatives to austerity exist, that another type of policy is possible," he added.
Very active on community networks, the movement announced support rallies abroad, London, Boston, Paris, Madrid, Barcelona, ​​in particular.
On September 15, 2012 it had gathered hundreds of thousands of people across the country, an exceptional mobilization since the Carnation Revolution of 1974 and the establishment of democracy in Portugal.
The protests on Saturday come as social discontent is on the rise again against austerity, which the government is applying in return for the € 78 billion bailout it has benefited from since May 2011.
Witness to the unease, members of the government are frequently booed during their travels and a song, "Grândola Vila Morena", resounds as they pass to the point of having become a symbol of the protest after having been the hymn of the French Revolution. Eyelets.
The song will sound again on Saturday during parades which, like the one in Lisbon, are scheduled around 16:00 p.m. (GMT and local).
The main Portuguese union, the CGTP, is to take part in the demonstrations, which should also be joined by teachers, health professionals, pensioners, and even the military.

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/monde/20 ... erite.html