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by Christophe » 11/04/16, 12:56

Obamot wrote:1) it would be nice to publish the source of this table.
2) Do not understand how we arrive at such figures, the world GDP is approx. 65'000 billion dollars!
3) You have to know what you're talking about. If it is by volume of transactions in the banks, it means nothing, since in this case they are gross figures and it is necessary to take on these sums, only a few percent of commissions from banks and other financial organizations.
If I buy 100 T cocoa (1600 € per ton) the transaction volume will be 160'000 € but this amount is the market value of the product and not the amount of the commission that would be 5'600 € ...! For me the mistake comes from there.


Yes it is not very clear ... is it the "expenditure or investment" per year? 32 billion in tax havens per year is 000% of world GDP so there too is a lot.

Is this the figures capitalized since X years?

1) Source: Facebook so ... to take with tweezers as I said in the message.

2) GDP is the creation of wealth per year ... there we speak, perhaps, capitalized figure, so it is fully compatible, so there would be roughly 10 years of global GDP in the derivatives market ( if this number is correct ...)

2a) And the leverage effects of banks? A bank that owns 1 can invest more than 20 ... see a lot more ... 20 is the "leaking" figure ... I wouldn't be surprised if it is more towards 100 on certain products ...

3) Against the example: in France (and certainly in many European countries), the expenditure on education is far superior (by far) to military expenditure ...
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Re: Philosophy: Some quotes to ponder




by Janic » 12/04/16, 09:02

christophe hello
the expenditure on education is superior (by far) to military expenditure ...
do not confuse education and instruction! This confusion is unfortunately frequent and even "official" in its formulation.
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by Obamot » 12/04/16, 12:22

Christophe wrote:It's not at all a quote but I place it here anyway (please check):

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If these figures are true (especially the "derivatives") ... poor humanity ... poor capitalism ...


Drug trafficking illicit, accounted for US $ 321.6 billion in 2003 >>>
We can deduct:
- the figures in the table are from 2008 / 2010 approximately.
- this figure is an annual figure.

World military spending, reached 1 204 billion dollars in 2006 >>>
We can deduct:
- that figure is also an annual figure.

Advertising expenses are estimated here at 529 billion >>> (2015) but it's hard to estimate because advertising is not marketing, POS, POS or market research ... (Wiki gives 300 billion in 2000 >>>)
I think this figure of 2'000 billion is not so wrong for the total.

Speculation (which one?) => I take out my joker!

Tax heavens
1170 billion in 2007 >>>
This figure is hard to verify because it is necessary to distinguish between tax evasion (taxes are paid by domiciling the company's head office in a country with attractive taxation) and tax evasion (no tax is paid in the country at all). where the funds are deposited.)

Other coffee products (speculation), correct figure according to wikipedia >>>

Finally all in all your picture seems correct! It's cold in the back!

And to say that only 1 2% of the inhabitants of the planet (primary sector), allows the rest of (on) live. Sector also victim of speculation.
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Re: Philosophy: Some quotes to ponder




by Christophe » 12/04/16, 12:47

Janic wrote:do not confuse education and instruction! This confusion is unfortunately frequent and even "official" in its formulation.


I don't really understand the meaning of your remark. What do you want to include in "instruction"?

I was talking about the national education budget: it is much higher than that of the army in France ...
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by Christophe » 12/04/16, 12:51

Obamot wrote:Finally all in all your picture seems correct! It's cold in the back!


Thank you for checking the numbers ...

Except for tax havens (but due to the very nature of "paradise" it is difficult to have exact figures !!), as you say, it rather sticks ...

And after governments want to impose sustainable austerity? Taxes and indecent tax rates?

How to say? To the citizens arms can be?
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Re: Philosophy: Some quotes to ponder




by Janic » 12/04/16, 18:22

I don't really understand the meaning of your remark. What do you want to include in "instruction"?
Education is what was at the origin of the school for all, where notions of even basic knowledge, of reading, writing and counting, had to be brought.
Education is independent of these notions of knowledge and concern knowing how to live in society and is not really the direct domain of the school (even if it is more or less gradually become).
Historically (to use the speeches of the time) the secular school has presented itself as a competitive alternative to denominational schools which were almost in a monopoly position. These "schools" not only provided elements of basic knowledge, but also systems of educational values ​​called moral and in this case called religious.
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Re: Philosophy: Some quotes to ponder




by Did67 » 12/04/16, 18:39

The question, very just and even essential, has never been clearly resolved: secular schools have always been asked to inculcate "republican values" ... (secular) moral courses have existed, have disappeared, came back...

To instruct is to transmit knowledge, to know ... One can be very learned and a big con or a big crapule ...

To educate is to inculcate values, principles, morals, behaviors ... One can be a man of great value and illiterate (I met some, especially in Africa).

The tendency is very clearly again in the direction of education, on the basis of the fact that there is no longer a common basis of values ​​in our Republic. At the expense of education (what is the point of educating, beyond basic knowledge - reading, writing, reasoning - in the age of google and wikipedia?)
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Re: Philosophy: Some quotes to ponder




by Diabolorent » 13/04/18, 15:39

The degree of civilization of a society is measured by the attention it gives to the weakest.

"There is no more cruel tyranny than that which one exercises in the shadow of laws and with the colors of justice" : Montesquieu.

"If you are criticized for the lack of professionalism in your work, do not forget that Noah's ark was built by amateurs while the Titanic was made by professionals. "

"By dint of preventing us from dying we will end up preventing ourselves from living" : Pascal Bruckner - The tyranny of penance.
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Re: Philosophy: Some quotes to ponder




by PVresistif » 15/04/18, 11:07

"If you do not read the newspaper, you are not informed. If you read the newspaper, you are misinformed. [Mark Twain.]
"Men are born ignorant but not stupid. It's education that makes them stupid. [Bertrand Russell.]
"In these times of universal imposture, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. [George Orwell.]
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Re: Philosophy: Some quotes to ponder




by Christophe » 22/05/18, 11:49

Not a quote but a nice editing:

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