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by bernardd » 22/09/10, 23:16

Obamot wrote:... mean by that, a group of highwaymen raging in the Maghreb, and who allegedly pledged allegiance to "Al Qaeda" barely a few years ago [source: 20:00 p.m. F2 / TF1 newspaper this evening].


Astonishing this affair, just when the French government was in full political or even criminal difficulty.

Because only a breach of French security can create stronger emotions than anger against a corrupt minister and a plan to modify pensions.
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by coucou789456 » 23/09/10, 01:32

Good evening

I would say that the implementation of Désertec, risks being a "hot period to go through" ...


and if this project becomes a reality, does it not risk becoming Al Qaedatec in the more or less long term?

let's just hope that in the US a super bush is elected again, otherwise in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z0z1J6mJvs you just need to replace the word "japan" by "iran"

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by Obamot » 23/09/10, 08:03

What does it matter "super republican" to come, will he not only do "what we will tell him"?...
Because it is quite possible that Iran (like other countries) does not have a monopoly in this field (to choose, I prefer however to live my life in "known ground").

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Obamot wrote:... mean by that, a group of highwaymen raging in the Maghreb, and who allegedly pledged allegiance to "Al Qaeda" barely a few years ago [source: 20:00 p.m. F2 / TF1 newspaper this evening].


Astonishing this affair, just when the French government was in full political or even criminal difficulty.

Because only a breach of French security can create stronger emotions than anger against a corrupt minister and a plan to modify pensions.

Finally I change my mind partially: I do not believe in a "Islamist contagion" (term used at the UN? ...>) in the Maghreb. Because I ask myself the question of the precarious situation in which this small group lives in relation to the "regimes" of neighboring countries, which are not all models of democracy (if there are any ...). As for coming to Europe ... they would need a lot of means, they are spotted mebon.
It is clear that it smells of the isolated act to bail out the funds of common law gangsters "in need of heroism" (and who do not yet see the boomerang coming back ...)
A boon!?
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by bernardd » 23/09/10, 08:48

Obamot wrote:A boon!?


Or does the show continue?

Remember this article, never denied:
voltairenet.org/article157210.html#article157210

We can discuss the origin of the article, but not the pedigree of his stepfather.

Before the publication of this article, the site was attacked so much that it remained unusable for more than 1 month. They had to move it to countries other than France ...
... and pay the affront:
voltairenet.org/article158181.html#article158181

This article is more recent:
voltairenet.org/article166848.html

The actors have been at a good school and they have help for the staging.

But silence from the commercial media on the training of actors.
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by Christophe » 23/09/10, 09:14

bernardd wrote:Nothing to do: the settlers' territory was not disputed, it was their autonomy that was refused by the pack leaders.


The nuance is weak it seems to me ... the main reason for the search for independence was obviously economic (tax, puncture on the productions by the English ...) or the wars of conquest are also ...

In addition, the territory was still considered English before, with an English territorial presence and more after. Like any colony, as a reminder in many minds, Algeria "was France".

So there was a change in the status of the territory ...

But hey it's not the debate ...
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by bernardd » 23/09/10, 09:57

But living Iranians have experienced the atrocities and torture of the shah and his military advisers.

They experienced trench warfare and bombing with all the deadly and prohibited technological subtleties, paid for by the USA, Europeans and others: the same people who denigrate them today.

They even had a civilian plane taken down by a US ship.

So they know what the colonizers are capable of, and they don't want to relive that: normal, right?
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by Obamot » 23/09/10, 12:43

Definitely, everything changes and nothing moves! : Shock:

Well, I'm not quite sure that Iran at the time of the Iran / Iraq war was the same (I guess not). Yet it remains a country still very "closed", despite a clear opening in the "business world" ... Is it so "good" for everyone? Because ironically, while the Shah was supported by the Americans, the Iranians of today have turned to Russia.

Other than that I am dumped with Meyssan's words. Obviously everyone saw a Sarkozy who was relatively "fan of the American model", to such an extent that they embarrass the Obama couple with their "people" side ... And his left / right speech always made me think of him like a boxer who uses ropes to bounce on the ring going from an almost leftist argument to a rhetoric not far from the extreme right-wing popullist (ie the "karcher" cleaning of the suburbs)! When he is not relatively beside his pumps on certain issues. It suffices to listen to a few speeches ... At one time he took Switzerland as an example, then attacked it in terms of tax evasion ... until the Woerth-Bettencourt affair (I laughed ...)

And then is it really an opening to the "left" or more or less assumed "confessional" affinities !?
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by Christophe » 04/10/10, 11:19

Continuation and end of the virus:

Iran says it cleaned computers from Stuxnet virus
LEMONDE.FR with AFP and AP | 04.10.10 | 10:09 a.m.

Industrial computers infected with the Stuxnet virus have been cleaned, "said Mohsen Hatam, deputy industry minister responsible for planning, quoted Sunday (October 3) by the website of state television. According to another Iranian official. , an unknown number of "nuclear spies" linked to this viral attack have been arrested, also reports The New York Times.

Iranian authorities last week claimed that 30 industrial computers had been infected with the virus. "This virus was created a year ago and has collected information on industrial computers," Hatam added. He said "personal computers were the most affected by the virus."

Discovered in June, Stuxnet attacks computers with a program from German Siemens used to control pipelines, oil platforms, power plants and other industrial facilities. Its function would be to modify the management of certain activities to cause the physical destruction of the affected facilities, according to experts who spoke of "computer sabotage".


Suite: http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/arti ... 51865.html
Virus info: http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/w ... et-dossier
https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... tHOg6r.pdf

As was to be expected, the virus hit other "targets":

Stuxnet would have mainly struck Iran, but also India, Indonesia or Pakistan, according to these experts. China has also been affected.


http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/arti ... 51865.html
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by gegyx » 12/02/11, 21:37

Following confusion among Republicans ...
But the internal divisions over the course of action quickly produced rather embarrassing hiccups: Tuesday, the House rejected for lack of sufficient votes a bill to extend the anti-terrorist law of post-September 11, called Patriot Act.

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualit ... -unis.html

Will that change a lot already?

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by Obamot » 20/05/11, 11:22

This is called being consistent:

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Probably the only way out of it indeed ...

Netanyahu's double talking clearly appears ...

And at the same time, it allows us to get out of the hostage that the Hebrew state poses - around the paradigm of "victimization" - for ages on the world, according to some observers, notably at the UN.

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This would tend to suggest an unprecedented turnaround in the acceptance of initiatives from civil society !!!

It is both beneficial and possibly contradictory, because opportunistic ... and not really democratic ...!

There I seem to be playing with fire, because basically there is a free interpretation of "What the protesters want" without finally being asked their opinion on what they want in detail ...!

But obviously the clan Bush paradigm was much worse ...
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