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by sen-no-sen » 06/11/17, 19:37

Inclusive writing is part of the post modernist line of study on gender and of a liberal libertarian political class wanting to mask social violence with societal measures as aberrant as ineffective ... inclusive writing is to writing what contemporary art is to painting: an inability for a society that goes too fast to express changes.
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by Christophe » 19/11/17, 22:44

I wonder what they will do with the city of Kaunas: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaunas : Cheesy:
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by Christophe » 15/12/19, 20:14

I zapped the top today and I can't believe it! It annoyed me so much that I kindly took a screenshot of it ...

How big is that? Because we are not at Hanouna or M6 or in a reality TV TV but on the parliamentary channel of the Senate !! Hello what !!

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* the Firefox dictionary does not know kindly ???? ... it's the day of the French language you have to believe !!! : Evil: : Evil: : Evil:

** initiates on TV puppies will understand : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 15/12/19, 20:16

The show actually dates from June 2019: https://www.publicsenat.fr/emission/le- ... ratique-26

The catch is around 5:50 ...

We are therefore looking for chiefs to make beautiful constructions in France!

Hurry up Ladies !!

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by Christophe » 15/12/19, 20:25

Hop it's tweeted for those who want to share:

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by GuyGadebois » 15/12/19, 20:44

Christophe wrote: Hello what !!
** initiates on TV puppies will understand : Mrgreen:

The exact quote is "No, hello what. You're a girl you have no shampoo… It's like I'm telling you you're a girl you have no hair."
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by Remundo » 16/12/19, 01:07

let's look for a writer of incul.sive and illegible writing to play it modern progress.sis.te and leveler of common sense : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 16/12/19, 09:45

Remundo wrote:let's look for a writer of incul.sive and illegible writing to play it modern progress.sis.te and leveler of common sense : Mrgreen:


It is certainly illegible but you do not make any serious mistakes in words that do not exist ... : Mrgreen:
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by Obamot » 22/09/20, 04:53

By the way, should we say:

- “LE covid-19 "

ou

- “LA covid-19 "

Here is an article which does not really decide, but which takes up all the arguments for the application of the masculine VS the feminine.

https://www.franceculture.fr/sciences-d ... a-covid-19

I was in the process of switching from masculine to feminine out of humility, but I think it's a mistake for these 6 reasons at least:

- it is totally wrong to translate the “d” of d in English by “disease” making it an absolute principle, since terminology question, 'd'would rather be “a malaise” (“dis”For“ bad ”and“ease”For“ ease ”=> or“ to be ”). This therefore allows us to say that Covid-19 - from the point of view of the main phrase - is therefore indeed masculine: CQFD.

- covid-19 is the acronym of Coronavirus Disease 2019, or in French, the first rule is that of common use (in the French-speaking world) which has been imposed for several reasons, said “a coronavirus” taken from “ co ”from covid, and“ a virus ”taken from“ vi ”(the acronym) and therefore twice it is masculine which is imposed according to this principle. It is “current use” that is decisive, and this use has prevailed for 6 months, with a clear inclination for men. And finally, the feminization e is not justified on the sole basis of “d” for disease, since it is an English word which has no gender and which translates would become “m” for “disease” which does no sense (and which would be the only justification for feminization, which is a mistake since anyway “disease” is placed at the end of the acronym)

- according to the French Academy, acronyms and acronyms have the gender of the name which constitutes the core of the syntagm of which they are an abbreviation - one can read relevant examples in the article of France Culture - and according to the latter in covid-19 it there are 4 co-vi-d-19 sub-syntagms of which 2 main are male: a corona, a virus, the number 19 is secondary, but for the “d” of “d”This one does not have a gender in English and it cannot take one ex nihilo (except because one would say“ the disease ”in which case it would be necessary then to say“ the covim-19 ”instead of covid , which wouldn't make much sense).

- as it is said in the article, Canada is a bilingual country which applies a feminization of words based on rules with an English-speaking approach. What is part of THEIR cultural exception should therefore not be imposed on the rest of the French-speaking world!

- as the Académie française did not vote for feminization, it is therefore the “rule of use” that must apply.

- to say “the covid-19” sounds better than to the feminine one (and that counts, because “the co ...” could thus suggest in an erroneous way “company” or what more…).

For these reasons and without being too mistaken, I am going back to the masculine form, and because there are enough of them to be influenced by Anglicisms! : Cheesy:
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by Remundo » 22/09/20, 08:37

I asked myself the question several times, indeed,

in fact "COVID19" designates both THE virus and the influenza / disease, in general without being able to distinguish the meaning in the sentence.

After reading the articles, the feminine is more rarely used.

my personal rule is to put LE Covid-19 if I am thinking of the virus and LA Covid-19 if I am talking about the disease.

Good but in general it does not pose any problem of comprehension or ambiguity. Of which act. :)
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